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Question: What if they are not sorry?

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I'll bite, IB, in September - on gear only. Kevin, you should get in on this... I will have already climbed it. Is Beacon going to open up early?

No...you're wrong.... Man....how long will this topic go for? Maybe we can just burn the entire hillside. Blow up the Mt. For all those who don’t like it (pope, rain boy, and JH) DONT CLIMB IT! You guys sound like you're ideology come from behind the iron curtain. Just because you don’t like it….. nobody else gets to enjoy it. WRONG

I completely agree.

Russ.....that poll does allow for the "I am not smarter than any bear"

Well.....that is how you are acting. Moralizing and then hiding behind you cloak and dagger. I will say it again....with as much as you talk shit abou this route....I get the feeling you would not stand up and admit you chopped it. If that is the case....you are a pussy....whimp....or should I say coward. We might as well agree to disagree.

No Rain....if you moralize about this shit in the open, then you better chop in the open or you are a huge PUSSY.

Holy crap well spoke..... :tup:

No she is the best climber.....she will climb on top of you....

Feels good dont it. This is the best thread ever. Go fuck yourself.

Here is something you are familiar with.... And one more thing.

Generally people who think old school 10b's should be 11a don't know this. FYI. Realy....who it that?....Clean and Jerk is rated 10.c in the book....I led it so I have an opinion on the grade. I thought it was hard for 10.c.

Obvious disrespect? You telling me you have never broken the speed limit? bullshit

I agree….one does not need to experience heroin, suicide, or swim in a open sewer to have an opinion….BUT you do need to “see the movie” before you talk trash take it. You are that guy aren’t you? You’re the guy who bags on movies simply because others tell you they are no good. Lame….never listen to the critics. You must do it for yourself. I have people who bag on climbs they have never done. NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON! Yes you do….or you would not be battling me and others on the web about a frickin sport climb.

Nice shot bill.....even though this person took it.... Best climber ever....Jim.

Have there been others?

How would you know? Let me guess.....you have heard this? That is a no no JH. Hearsay? Overbolted.....I am told alot of the pitches are 80 to 120 between bolts....overbolted?

Actually she is but not sure if you would want to date a chick that can climb harder than you. ZING....OUCH! Hey, Kevbone has an insult thread already goin' right now in spray! It was insulting before that comment. Just be happy I am no longer in your mind!!!!

Wow....I must have my glasses on wrong....I thought the headline read. Bush is a piece of shit and fondles little boys.

Yes it does. Really, how would you know? Have you climbed this climb? That’s what I thought. You really have no room to talk and moralize about something you know nothing about. Raindog....go climb the climb and I "might" respect your criticism more.

You need to realize that you are speaking only for yourself here and maybe a couple of others. Not for the hundreds, perhaps thousands of appreciative climbers. Your feelings are as an individual, and with a viewpoint that is in fact clearly in the minority and a small one at that. You believe that because YOU feel this way, it is the Gods honest truth. But that is a delusion you have and one which I do not share. Again, you need to realize that you are speaking only for yourself here. Your feelings are as an individual, and with a viewpoint that is in fact clearly in the minority and a small one at that. You believe that because YOU feel this way, it is the Gods honest truth. But that is a delusion you have and one which I do not share. No apology is needed. You need to realize that you are speaking only for yourself here. The community is appreciative of having a stellar long route. You are wrong Joseph. It is an "opinion" you have. I do not share your "opinion", nor do about 90% of all other climbers I'd imagine. If Harding had listened to the "Agencies and Authorites" El Cap might still be off limits to all climbers. In my "opinion" none of your remarks hold up to scrutiny, as they are only your "opinion". If it is true that as a community we should reach consensus before we do such an radical act as removing the protection on an existing route, or even changing single bolt on any route. If that is truly the case, then this needs to go a significantly longer distance via discussion only to reach that consensus. You are a good and descent person Joseph, but you might entertain the idea that you are wrong in your opinion, and that everybody else, who wants it to be left alone and in place, is right. That is the way I feel abou it, and o matter how many times you repeat your opinion, you will not change the way I think on it. :tup: :tup: :tup: :rawk:

Holy shit.....your kidding right? 5.9 used to be the limit in the grading scale.....who knew?