kevbone

How about a pink ass?

Nobody has seen them because they are not there.

Peanut butter and jelly is for loosers.

I will miss it as well.

I thought JH was Dwayner and pope......wouldn’t that be funny.

I will

So….maybe its time for all to go climb this climb…..it seems like the ones who are against it have not climbed it. IN MY OPINION, when it comes to climbing…..if you are bitching about a climb you have not done/seen…..you’re argument has no ground to stand on. Take this thread on smith rock.co Ian Caldwell placed a bolt in the middle of a second pitch of an existing sport route so you can lower with a 70 m rope. Why is not the point. This caused controversy. It seemed like the same climbers complaining about this bolt…..have and will never climb the route to actually see the bolt they are complaining about. I would have more respect for your point of view if you have actually seen IB and have climbed it. Otherwise you’re just another moralizer from a distance spouting about what you have been told…..and if you have not been told about it…..then you are speculating…..either way……you got no credibility.

Damn.......

I would love to do some climbing with you....but like I said, by Sept I will have already climbed it.

Kevin, I don't need to climb IB to know it takes pro across a bunch of those pitches. Get real you're comparing a few feet on one pitch with 22 pitches on another. John's in, how about you...? Uh....unless you have some sort of mental telepathy to read the minds of the FFA team…..you do have to climb it to know. Please stop assuming. I have no doubt you can place gear……my question is did they put bolts next to cracks? I will find out soon enough.

August 23 1996.....my first climb.

I like cats. That is some funny shit.

Josh Warton is in Higher Ground .....time to boycott!

Thank god Rumur is around to keep it real.

Exactly, I do know one of that crew and no bolt would have gone in on the line if there was any conceivable way of using pro. When they sink a bolt, whether on the Nose or on Prusik you can count on it being pro of absolute last resort on a mixed free trad pitch. As for it being drilled on rappel, I don't think anyone on earth to my knowledge has drilled on lead above 5.12. I suppose I should demand that of them, but I'll pass. They tried every single possible avenue of advancing on pro on that last pitch before resorting to a bolt. That's exactly how I trad climb: gear first and fixed pro as protection of absolute last resort. That is trad climbing - there is nothing whatsoever imperfect about my ethics. JH......so I take it you have not climbed IB? So you really have not foundation of knowledge of how run out it is or if the bolts were place next to cracks or really anything about the route other than hearsay. So you say this route on Purisk was acceptable to place a bolt due to no other forms of pro? Well…..how do you know that is not the case on IB? You don’t. So until you and the others climb it for yourself…..maybe you all should go aid climbing. Or maybe we could all get together for beer sometime.

I disagree...ethics are personal......don’t preach to me about what is kosher and what is not kosher.

Are you telling me you have never sped in your car? That is not leagal as well and alot more dangerous. Argument holds no water. Next! I am not so sure Marylou……your argument was legality. Your own words. I was trying to point out that all of us do illegal shit. This route is no different that speeding, which is something we ALL do everyday.

So true.

Are you telling me you have never sped in your car? That is not leagal as well and alot more dangerous.

Baseball should be banned. Its lame to watch.....talk about BORING. Basketball baby.....

Really dumb for resonding to this lame thread.....Go F@#$ yourself.....oh wait....wrong thread....sorry friend.

Nice......my fav....

Another night of choking.

Visors rule.

I completely agree.