Dude, Kev, I'm getting so sick of your "if you don't like bolts, it's ego" thing.
Take hiking...my wife is an avid hiker. Does that mean she would enjoy walking the length of 405, hiking along the shoulder? I mean, any REAL hiker would LOVE hiking along a freeway, right?
God, I want to like you but sometimes you sound like such a dickface.
I didn't realize you were such a sporto.
You have me wrong friend. "if you don't like bolts, it's ego" thing. I never said that. I was saying in some circumstances where chopping is prevalent, ego sometimes takes a role in it.
I am very much not a sporto. I climb whatever is open. Hope we get to climb sometime in the future and take the kids.