kevbone

Jason lives.......

This thread rocks.....thanks so much for the pictures of your little ones......please, keep them coming.

I have a stick clip......I made it my self......does that make it ok?

I disagree……go back and check it out. Some dude started spouted off against me personally instead of added to the discussion. I don’t know about that……the certainly big wall climb…..they just do it quicker…… I would never try to change your opinion. By the way……thanks for sharing. Kev.

This statement really shows your lack of understanding about this climb….”traditional crags”….is that what Mt. Garfield is? Well I have been on it and have a unique view of it. This climb would be a solo without the bolts. I believe it to the farthest thing from a “traditional crag”. Once again…….I do no believe your view point to hold any weight until you climb this climb……or the very least hike up to the base and check it out. I promise you will not even be able to see the bolts…….

Dude...I'm going to have to wait a few years until you're done pulling up! I take that as a no? I

Great....next time you are in Portland.....get ahold of me and we will go pull down.....I look forward to it. kevin

You notice how only people who know of this anchor are in the conversation. No one else has chimed in....I would say this has been a conversaion of the locals.....I do not believe this topic to be a useless BS topic. Sorry we disagree.

I do ignore the haters.....you pretty much sumed that up for me.... Rain.....I love sippy cups.....

I believe this "unwritten rule" has been around longer than you have been climbing. You climb.....right?

Mt. Hamilton. Or any steep hike in the gorge.

It was a good discussion until some folks got on here and attacked me for my views, instead of adding to the discussion…..so this was a good informative discussion but the last ten posts have been spray.

Methinks that sounds scary.

Didnt your teacher ever teach you there is no such thing as a dumb question?

We were WAY off route Bill……I led a 1000 lead with one crappy cam and a bush as pro……Ben kept going and we finally met up with the climb at the bottom of the upper head wall……on the way down we passed a team coming up that was complaining about no bolts. These guys were easily 75 feet out from there last crappy piece…..we all agreed this was nothing compared to the rap that Ben and I were in the middle of. The follower of the other team was passing me as I took myself off belay 2000 feet of the ground at the end of the 200 rap. I was not tied into the wall……I just kind of leaned in. No crack to make an anchor. Still 100 feet of down climbing on sandy/gravely/ loose rock to make the next bolted anchor…..yikes.

Big wall dave....right?

To busy hanging out in my cubicle......

Pink......I counted 4 (of the lot) that was (in my mind) unnecessary. On a 23 pitch climb…..to answer your question……NO. Matter of fact (IMO), all that it needs is an anchor (in the spot in question) and about 2 to 3 lead bolts on the pitches with no bolts. The only thing you could complain about after that would be some loose rock……once these extra bolts and anchor goes in…..it would be the ultra classic it was meant to be.

You may not be trying......but you are succeeding. If you don’t like the discussion…..move on friend. If you don’t know be by now……I like being the “devils advocate”. There is nothing wrong with this. Sorry I have offended you with questions you don’t like. Kev

It’s called respect. I was taught you never touch someone else’s climb with out asking permission out of respect for who came before you. It is an unwritten code. I would say out of the all the climbers I talk too and know, 99% of them know and abide by this respect. It does not matter if the climb is 50 or 3000 feet, it would go a long way to make a valid attempt at contacting the “climbers who came before you”. Once again Rain……respect those who came before you please.

Is that true? Wow!

Great job.

Who is the Erden person?

That is because you are a girl.....