JosephH

Or, as Bill put it so succinctly on the other thread...

Yes, I did. Alex, there is a Fixed Protection Application you can get at the office. You basically fill it out, take some digital shots of where you propose it, explain why you want it, and then the application will get vetted and either approved or disapproved.

And as stated several times, they're temp work anchors and they'll be removed this time next year once we check the status of several more loose blocks. No one will be able to tell where they were. Again, where was your outrage about YW and all the other unnecessary bolts and anchors the were slammed into your sacred Beacon? Kind of a johnny-cum-lately on the outrage and indignation front.

Two hours for the corner w/ a stop, pretty good. I had two and half to hump three ropes, gear, shovel, and drill rig up to the top of the high corner ramp, fix a line and rap down to the rockfall scar, survey the scene, fix an anchor, and and be back at the parking lot to meet everyone for the cleanup. I did what was expedient and safe for myself and another person who was kind enough to volunteer to work off of. Again, it's a work anchor that I can remove and camo it in under 15 minutes so no one will ever know it was there. We weren't going up there to climb and it's not a climbing or ethics discussion, or can't you tell the difference? And why attempt to make it one?

No, I'm just really good at removing bolts and expoxing over the holes, so I don't have a problem putting in a temp work anchor in a fresh 60' rockfall scar where no one is going to see the epoxied over holes unless they do LW. All in all a lot of bold talk from a guy who didn't do the work and pleads for yet another unnecessary bolt on YW.

I'll let Bill speak for himself on how comfortable he'd have been doing the work we did with both of us yarding around for half a day from a couple of cams. Lot of big talk from a guy that wasn't there doing what Bill and I were doing. But then talk has always been your particular specialty. Unnecessary anchors? Yeah, I'm real guilty of that. If it were up to me most of the bolts and anchors on Beacon would disappear. I can only imagine the rage you must have expressed about the bolts when YW was being put up.

It's not a big deal as that particular anchor won't be there this time next year, we'll just want it next year's open to check the stability of a couple of large blocks.

That is a bummer. I was hoping it had stayed right of there. That handrail was very nice. This coming full moon I'll pitch anything left up there from the cleanup.

As we move into year 15 of 'The Persecution', bitching has been expanded to all 12 months, especially for those whose geographic or child-rearing status impedes them from enjoying Beacon now that it's open.

Pretty far off the mark Steve, I'm not the one who's life was 'ruined' by the bird and I don't think rock is 'dangerous'. Dave is closer to the mark, but as I keep saying, I'm not elitist, just selfish about getting all the days out there I can.

Unfortunately been pushed out two years - at least when I move, it will be to go do something I want to do, not because they closed the rock and 'ruined' my life here (not that you've been tearing it up in CO or anything).

Dude, name a single fact I've made up - it's not my gig. I'm no english major, maybe you have a better word to describe those who choose to adopt a lifestyle and personna of being persecuted; who revel and wallow with pride in the identity of being a victim?

Why stop being a stupid fuck now?

What Sarah really thinks about Mama Grizzlies (and damned if there isn't always a fat, short-dick, small-thinking, cocksucker out there to do the deed)

Hmmmm, I personally wouldn't belay YW from there. The plan at the moment is to leave things as is until this time next year so we can see how everything has shaken out over this coming winter and then make the call. That will also give a chance to climb 'Lost Warriors' and sort out where an anchor should be for it instead of the tree that's now gone (still need to try and find that tree, gotta be down there somewhere...!).

Not sure what an 'alpine big rig' is, but all my 'roped soloing' is lead free climbing. There is endless discussion on 'TR soloing' on Supertopo and here for that matter if you search google with that phrase.

Just as an aside, and to keep the confusion level down, I generally use the phrase "roped soloing" or "roped soloed" for lead roped solo free climbing and "TR soloing" and "aid soloing" for those activities. Either way it sounds like you were kicking some ass...

So begins year 15 of victimal whining...

STFUAB is in no way grigri-specific. As far as dropping them? I've dropped and used some, dropped and retired others - it's a 'depends' sort of deal.

These days almost always a case of STFUAB.

No, and neither am I. But you are and I'm guessing the new wife is as well...

If conservatives and republican politicians don't like gays then they should stop having and raising them. Simple as that.

According to the Alaska Dept. of Fish and Wildlife, Sarah is loosing the 'Mama Grizzly' protected status she has enjoyed so long as she stayed close to her new kid.

Maybe post this one up over on RC; sounds like quite the guy...

Another perspective of the rockfall scar from a bit below the midway mark of it (that's Bill up there).