KaskadskyjKozak

no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age

look at the Innocence Project page... it gets worse

no, he didn't. my point was not that ANY hetero couple is the bestest in the world, but that the ideal for raising children involves a father and mother. having a shitty father and/or mother is not part of the ideal. and, back to the monogamy topic, what I have noticed is that children of divorce seem to have the most trouble, on average, with committment. I'm pretty sure I've read reports on research backing this up and I've damn well seen it in people I know. again, the non-ideal situation of lacking a stable set of parents leads to (on average) worse outcomes. likewise, girls with no strong father figure are more likely to be sexually abused and have other problems (drug use, depression, etc). Again, I recall reading reports on studies of this. anyways, I'm done with this thread. I'm sorry I got sucked into it. you guys would argue the shade of blue of the sky if it got into your mind.

...By their hetero parents. umm, no, by ANY parents. could be gay, lesbian, or single parent, whatever.

We all look the same to them. that is so fucked up.

that's funny, the thing I've noticed is how people who are majorly fucked up can trace it right back to something that happened to them in childhood.

umm, who ever said that? again, I think people read way too much into the idea of an IDEAL. if you take away from one aspect you have to fill it somehow with another.

looks like another manufactured argument here for the sake of argument. do you have kids? have you been around enough to see how their role models affect them? have you read any of the research that comes out periodically on this subject? just because you don't like a "non-PC" truth, do you feel compelled to argue against it with no backing but emotion?

Every time I hear one of these stories it pisses me off. How do you make up for something like this?!!! linky

yes, it does. nice PC try though. kids need both a male and female role-model, so with same-sex parents, that missing role model needs to be filled somehow - ideally speaking that is.

sounds like a short jump you're bad

Interesting that you make no mention of Chris's discovery that his father had not been divorced from his first wife when he married Chris's mom, and also fathered a child with the first wife after Chris was born. I think you'd be hard pressed to find an 18-year-old capable of forgiving their father after learning that, but maybe the ones who aren't naive and self-righteous would just take that right in stride. Well, gee, that's par for the course for V7 - check out the monogamy thread.

That's how it seems to me, too. The few "non-standard" families I've come across struck me as very happy. I guess some people like chocolate, and some people like vanilla, and some people like chocolate AND vanilla? I don't see any problem saying what it best on average for kids growing up. The reality is very few families are average and deviate from the "ideal" in some way.

"Halloween? Isn't that some pagan holiday, and aren't you being tempted to participate by... someone... could it be.... Satan?"

Bingo. so are the wildfires. look at the number of evacuees. as for the quoted point above, you can't expect a perfect response to an unprecedented event. No. 13: fuck off

"Why you call police? Did the retard escape?"

Love? Is that what you call it? yes, my young ignorant friend. making passionate love with women i love. you make a fine baboon

damned if you do, damned if you don't. blame is always dished out; credit is never given Not how I see it. This is my view: Damned: insisting on comparing this disaster to Katrina Not Damned: recognizing that this is it's own case. You want to compare the two? Then compare the system. People still have to wait in line to fill out a piece of paper and then wait on a 1-800 line forever to be told they may or may not get help. Nothing has changed since Katrina--except that people are more aware of bad publicity. Thank God we live in a weathy and generous society (go ahead and make barbs here; but I honestly believe this). People will donate money, time, clothing, etc to the victims of this disaster who just lost everything. there have been many hurricanes, and adequate relief for the victims. Katrina was different: it was unprecedented in its destruction and unforeseen. Yet, Bush was supposed to react perfectly to it. there have been many wildfires in SoCal - for as long as I remember (I lived in Cali 23 years). This seems to be unprecedented in its destruction and impact - and the response is well above average.

Love? Is that what you call it?

if your behavior is not immoral than nothing is.

in other words, the guy who claims to be so much above the animals and their base instincts w/r/t killing and war, wallows in the basest of animal drives w/r/t sex.

damned if you do, damned if you don't. blame is always dished out; credit is never given

yes, not a happy ending indeed. double entendre intended

you are right... a bunch of girlie men:

How izzit that you're aware of Malibu court operations? archenemy is omniscient