KaskadskyjKozak

Yeah, I used to be 140/90. These days it's more like 120/70. Had my BP taken today (at the dentist, wtf?). I'm 110/70. Must be all the whiskey dropped me down 10 points on the systolic.

no, silly, this

i may get some билий гриб (white mushrooms) this weekend... going on a hike with some countrymen... but it's always a scary thing - a leap of faith to trust those guys to differentiate a delicacy from poison. fuck, ANOTHER RISKY BEHAVIOR!

mmmm vodka. good idea. i'll add a few bucks to all you fucker's premiums. I drink to that. за здоров"я motherfuckers! ёб твою мать!

quick, post the chemical diagram

you have a lot of faith in my survival to respond to you query. wtf? anyways, the roads were exceptionally treacherous. there were cars on them! and water sometimes! and wet leaves! OMG!!! I nearly died a few dozen times, and, indeed, narrowly escaped a life in a wheelchair with a feeding tube a few dozen times more. i can't believe I am able to keep my life insurance, health insurance, and disability insurance while engaging in this reckless behavior. fortunately you are footing my bill. thanks, man.

Rack is grilled. I'm releasing green house gases grilled is even worse! as you consume carcinogens and put all our health care costs through the roof. I'm so pissed I could explode... oh, my heart, oh... you'll pay for that too...

Soylent Green? I'm having rack of cubicleraised officepark dad for dinner with a nice chimmichurri and an excellant Pinot Deep fried shit?! Pinot wine!!!! you are part of the problem! we need to tax you for your added risks, mother fahker!

i gotta rent that movie. maybe I'll do that instead of exersizing, and I'll eat a pile of hot wings drenched in ranch dressing and chased down with a pint of bourbon!!!

SWEET! It's almost time for me to risk imminent death or life as a quadraplegic as I bike across the bridge and then consume an adult beverage. EACH SHIT YOU SUCKERS for paying my insurance bills!!! Bring on Hillary care - you all need to pay for me!!! bwah-ha-ha-ha.

just like for global warming

best not to try, and move along. :-)

some "risks" and lifestyle choices clearly have a higher cost than others. you look to address the ones with the highest impact first and then move down the list.

I thought we were charging every individual for the risk they incurred? You can stay perfectly healthy with negligible injury risk riding the stationary bike and using the stairmaster And...? "neglible injury risk"? Really? 1) either you have to buy a stairmaster or stationary bike and keep it in your home - higher carbon footprint to produce the exercise equipment, and heat/maintain the larger house you need to keep the equipment (or forgo a couch or kitchen table in your 600 sq. ft. apartment, ha ha) 2) incur risk driving to and from the gym where you use the exercise equipment, and also adding to you CO2 footprint (transport to/from the gym)

for Chuckie

1) You're building an argument out of nothing and positing it as fact. As I said, nice try. Show me the numbers. You don't have them, so keep repeating your claims? Sorry, still not convinced. 2) You sound just like the global-warming deniers that you so readily criticize. Obesity is a huge problem in this country. 3) You don't know me, so fuck off with the personal stuff.

I don't buy that. Prove statistically that it is more dangerous (and costly) to bike than to drive. Or that the way *I* bike or drive is as dangerous as others who do the same. I've been in exactly one fender bender in (knock on wood) 22 years and over 200,000 miles of driving. ONE. I was rear-ended at a red light turned green in a backed-up intersection in 1991. YOU don't know that *I* increase the cost at all, now do you?

As has been pointed out KK, telling people what they "need" to hear often isn't the most effective means of getting them to change their behavior. Which I believe is the subject of this right? I'm not so sure. If the message was consistent and caught momentum things make change. But making endless excuses and rationalizations will lead nowhere. And come on, if you can't convince people to lose weight because it is healthier how the fahk are you going to convince them to reduce their CO2 footprint to reduce the temperature change from 10 degrees to 5 over the next 50 years?

climbing-related injuries do not and will not ever bankrupt our health care system. but, hey, if some day everyone is so fit and into active, dangerous sports that this becomes a problem we can have that discussion then.

So really what you and JayB are saying is you want people to be charged by risk as long as your premiums aren't affected. Typical No, what I am saying is I want us to stop pussy-footing around about telling people what they need to hear, rather than want to hear. That's what the thread started out as. And it's hilarious (and case in point) to read all the defensive reaction to that suggestion. As for an extra cost in premium costs, why not? If I am fit, I should pay less, and if I get sick or hurt a lot, well, maybe I should pay more too. Not to say you should be bankrupted by the delta in cost, but something reasonable.

Damn straight. Show a pair of lungs with bitch tits hanging off em. Like yours? looks like someone needs a "manzier"

Bullshit. Give me numbers. How many cyclists die or are injured every year compared to drivers on our freeways? Normalize it based on participants in said activity if you'd like. And how much does that cost the system? Now compare with the costs of health care for obesity-related care. It's ludicrous to propose that cycling-related injuries are driving up health-care costs. You can do better than that. And face it, what is increasing in this country along with health care costs? Cyclists? Or Obesity? Where do you thing the stronger correlation might be?

Perhaps it's who I know, but I know more athletes who've required extensive, expensive, knee surgery than morbidly obese. i don't know any athletes who've had that type of surgery, but lots of obese people who have

health care costs and cost of social security to start with

Bullshit. People should be charged by the pound. Especially those pregnant people--they are adding to the overall cost anyway. (Discount if they help out all those guys with lactating-MILF fantasys though--stress reliever). nice try, you keep bringing up pregnancy costs. But do you actually believe that the cost of pregnancies (pre-natal care plus delivery costs) in the US even compares to the cost of health care to treat obesity related problems, procedures etc? Do you know how much a friggin' knee-replacement operation costs for example? and let's not forget the CO2 footprint. Fatter people consume more (and expel more waste). At least that hypocrite Al Gore is not a lard-butt and if anything, rising health care costs can NOT be tied to higher pregnancy costs...