KaskadskyjKozak

Good points. One other thing to consider is that a decent portion of the folks who take these classes are just trying out the sport. They take the class, do a few climbs (one season), and then, well, they're done. It was an experience they wanted to try and that's it.

"Cred" for whom? An anklebiting jackass such as yourself? Who cares. I'll bet Selkirk is a decent climber and a nice guy to boot. I don't think I'd hold the same opinion of you. As for *spray* and your lame criticism - well you're doing it right now bud, irrespective of what forum you are posting under. Actually, I'd say it's always the jackasses who come out of the woodworks to flame the Mounties, usually on one of these threads where someone who wants to get into the sport is asking for advice. The other typical opportunity is after an accident. There's more than one way to learn - we've beat that horse to death. One way is through a club and "rigid" instruction. People like you don't seem to be content with that reality, and have to blast it incessantly. That shows quite a bit of arrogance and immaturity.

It seems to me that if I owned those bits of choice real estate, I'd remember them - even if I were 72.

With our bungling of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and declaring ourselves unaccountable under International law, I think it is fair to say we've scared the crap out of our allies, too. I don't think I'd call the wars "bungled". However, complaince with International law was one of the things which really pissed me off early on. Very poorly done, marginally legal if that. Poor communications with our friends, many of whom were shocked near speechless at our brash near unilateral go it alone actions which no doubt has led to the Russians beginning to start hardening up again. That we later got a few allies to climb on board very slightly doesn't change the early prosecution errors and crazyness. However, to those who are saying that we cannot win a guerrilla war, I ask you to look no further than the US slam dunk on El Salvador. It can be done and was done not too far back. Winning or losing that one meant little to us, but winning this one or losing this one has HUGE implications on many levels worldwide. Wishing you all well bill cueing talk of death squads in 3..2..1...

stick your pidgeon-holing up your corn-hole, dickwad!

WTF?

linky

Hey KrispyKream, I'm curious. What has made you come to this conclusion. From my perspective AlQaeda is more active than ever, witness Pakistan, Algeria, Afganistan (all seeing the largest attacks is the last 5 years or so) just in the last weeks? From where I sit, it really seems to be that these guys are emboldend? I understand that you really believe we have them on the run, but. . . .why? Where is your evidence? I'd love to see it? I know if I thought that I'd be much more optimisitc about our future? I believe it's a mixed bag - rather than the one-sided doom and gloom that all you Bush-hating liberal extremists spew. The funny thing is you take all challenges to your extremist world-view as the opposite polarity. To say that we've "emboldened" our enemies is ridiculous and simplistic. We've had some successes, but we've also antagonized them, as well as stirred up Iran and Russia among others. The latter is not because they think we are weak and unwilling to act, but the exact opposite. I'm not saying that is good or bad, but offering that observation, which you will of course reject as you muddle along in your myopic, addled world-view. So continue your MoveOn.org and DNC platitudes. I've got better things to do than argue with "jigglers" and "blurpies".

Did you get that from our intelligence community that Scott seems to worship? That is the dumbest thing you've posted for quite a while. KMA, libtard.

read the news. And sorry, but I can't take anyone seriously with the name "blurpy".

Sorry, but your simplistic analysis is not playing out.

And you are saying a 20:1 kill ratio is losing?

Russia is pissed off because of NATO expansion. They are not emboldened by us - they are acting out of fear. Hezbollah, the PLO, and other palestinian terroristts have been doing the same shit since long before Bush came into office.

And we can pick off Al Qaeda. No need to go to them, they come to us. You are arguing FOR an occupation of Iraq. Al Qaeda can and does recruit new members, however, they have been decimated in their fight against us in Iraq. Most of their leaders are dead, and now violence is down. Hmm...

well, duh, it was vandalized and stripped of all it's valuable parts. who the hell wants to move into that kind of neighborhood?

EXACTLY. They are acting not out of a feeling of "boldness" but out of fear that they are next, a position of inferiority not security. This situation may not be desirable, but it doesn't change the fact that saying our enemies are "emboldened" is bullshit.

That's complete and total bullshit. We have not emboldened any of our enemies - we've scared the shit out of them.

Typical liberal mentality: 1) We "can't" - mindset of failure, 2) "we need a dialogue" = replace any action with endless "talk" about doing something.

Lame. Clearly we SHOULD be concerned about whether our government's actions are making us safer or not, and we SHOULD NOT rely upon the "intelligence community" to tell us the answers. Has there been a terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11?

rhymes with with kinky And "Pinky". Perhaps I was too hasty in my identification of the perpetrator...

And to boot - often, the cairns are off-route. I think I'd rather not have cairns at all, since so many are wrong, and can lead one astray.

linky

I'd like to hear folks comment on what routes maybe should not be in the list... and what should in their place. I've heard some folks talk up the merits of the E ridge of Forbidden as opposed to the W, for example.

does a pass have to lead to a climbing area to qualify? i can't come up with any passes that really really suck and lead to climbing areas.

Minx doesn't climb. Do you really have that much reading comprehension difficulties?