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At the presidential level? We had one father-son combo early on in the Adams. Other than that we had distant cousins in the Teddy/FDR combination separated by around 30 years. Bush-Clinton-Bush-gap-Bush or Clinton seems pretty fucking unprecedented, don't you think? I'm with dberdinka that neither Bush nor Clinton should be even up for president - it is profoundly disturbing that these two families could control the White House for most of 40 years.

"Youz guys". clueless,you are

Gee, what a choice we might have: Bernie or Trump Trump or Hillary Hillary or Jeb We are fucking lost. And of the four, Bernie is the only one that would be any different than anything else. Which is why he will never get the nomination, and why I still give no shits about the whole stupid pointless thing. Yeah, he is different, he's the only true socialist. and he can FOAD

Gee, what a choice we might have: Bernie or Trump Trump or Hillary Hillary or Jeb We are fucking lost.

Bernie has an opinion on this topic and he is not a woman either... As for Bernie the Socialist, yes, go Bernie, please, GO. Away. far fucking away.

I disagree with much of what Bernie has to say and holds as positions, but he is right about one thing: we are run by two oligarchies and those oligarchies pick the candidates that run. The primary process is a farce.

Bernie is the 2016's version of Ralph Nader. He has a snowball's chance in hell of being nominated.

Trip: Dumbell and Greenwood - Standards Date: 8/2/2015 Trip Report: Last weekend I took my boys backpacking up to the upper Phelps Basin camp (just past the Spider Gap turnoff on the Phelps Trail). My youngest and I summited Dumbell and Greenwood mountains just before they announced the larger fire closure area for the Wolverine fire, which we could see billowing smoke. Upper Phelps Basin: Boys bouldering rock and Mountain House dining table: Cliff bands below Dumbell. We took an exposed route through the 1st cliff band going up and a loose gully through the second. An intervening hard patch of snow warranted crampons for a few feet only. Above the second cliff band: Scrambling high on Dumbell: Greenwood from Dumbell: Summit stoke on Dumbell Mountain. Bonanza pano: Negotiating the bulge on the infamous exposed class 2 ledge to Greenwood: View of Dumbell from Greenwood (S summit): My son traversing the snowfield from the Dumbell-Greenwood col. Crampons made the going easier for him and added to the experience. Gear Notes: Ice axe, helmet Approach Notes: Snow free until very high up, then just a few patches

Indeed. But what other user groups would go into the areas proposed for expansion? Backpackers and dayhikers. Cyclists and riders on horseback? I must say I enjoy the backcountry all over the NFs in the state, backpacking, hiking and tagging non-technical summits. It's refereshing to just show up at a TH, self-register (optional) and head in. No stopping in Marblemount during office hours, no permits, no quotas, no bureaucracy. Moreover I don't see any signs of overuse. The resources seem to be managed just fine by the NF for future generations as is.

Perhaps try the Sibley approach? You still have to rappel the moat and contend with some glacier travel, just not the section near Tepeh towers.

Thanks for this long an informative post! The quoted section, the "ugly" just further convinces me that the NCNP is out of control and hostile w/r/t to climber access, and why I opposed expanding that park any more.

some of us prefer oysters; others prefer snails.

fuck that I want huckleberry jam!

This fucking thread is still alive????

That's how I use the park, so that's my perspective. IF the park is expanded and further restricts my access and enjoyment why would I support it? What does the public care in general? The park system is about preserving the land for the enjoyment of its users for generations. You have to have both. I'm all for preserving the land, but I don't buy the argument that you have to have the NPS do it in the way they do in the NCNP since I go elsewhere and don't see the land getting trashed and going to hell in a hand basket - even at popular places like WA pass.

I have observed behavior that thwarts climbers. Answer me this, how can Mt. Rainier manage climbers on Muir, Schurman, etc by # of climbers but NCNP does it by # of permits? If the issue is impact wouldn't that mean # of people at a time and not # parties (a party could be 1 or 12). In boston Basin, 6 parties are allowed and that could be anywhere from 6 to 72. And why can't climbers make reservations? Why do you have to roll the dice and show up at 7 am (or the evening before) only to find the park has issued all the permits, including those to guides who pay franchise fees? Makes it hard to plan anything too. Have you been up the Boston Basin trail recently? It's overgrown. Why is WTA not allowed to go in there and do volunteer trail maintenance? Sorry, but I am not happy with the NCNP and how they administer the land. I'm much happier with the Olympic NP and MRNP.

Sweet. Hopefully this Sept or next...

I've been saving this one as a backup for a bigger trip W of the crest. Hoping I sack up and do that gap if I am solo. I've heard you can jump it on the descent. TFPU!

Death to all but rock!

eat a bowl of bloody dicks you lil bitch

with their one ok song.....yea!!! they've been consistently excellent with new material the past 15 years. Their show at White River 3 years ago was top notch. I'm definitely seeing Bruce, Harris and the boys next time around!

Yes, and that is even more perplexing! The NCNP does its best to thwart climbers. There is no consistency between National Parks, even in WA. I have no bones to pick really with how MRNP handles climbers and multiuse access (except the closing of W side road - a bit of an annoyance), or the Olympics (climbers, backpackers). It's the NCNP in particular that has a hostile and overprotective attitude towards climbers and protecting resources - especially in the Boston Basin area. If that's the model - I don't want it to expand.

Trip: Reynolds Peak - East Route (S Fork Reynolds Creek) Date: 7/18/2015 Trip Report: I've been taking my youngest son hiking since he was 3 or 4. He's been doing progressively more strenuous trips over the past few years and I thought we'd step it up a notch with a trip involving more offtrail travel and some bushwhacking. We drove up to the trailhead the night before and slept in the car. At 5 am we got up and my friend arrived just in time to head up together (safety in numbers with two adults). Summit Routes says this climb takes 6-7 hours and we did it in about 7:50. There was more brush on the trail portion than I expected which actually slowed us some, and then there was the bushwhacking and offtrail stuff. We left the trail later than we should have - around 3 miles in, and crossed the stream. The upside was that bushwhacking was minimal here. We then traversed left until we hit the stream coming down from the valley S of the summit area and headed up, staying on the W side of the stream. We broke out of the trees in the lower basin around 5600' but ended up making a bad choice for avoiding the slide alder and headed up too soon. The result was we traversed steep cliffy terrain around 6200' before we could head up again and hit the upper basin at around 6700'. From then on it was just hiking open terrain to the notch just to the E of the summit. From here up we picked a class 3 line with a few exposed moves. Arriving in the upper basin: Terrain above the basin: Summit view: We were greeted by a swarm of flying ants on the summit. Our DEET mostly was still on (from the swarms of mosquitos and black flies that we encountered earlier), but we still had to wave them away. Summit stoke: For the descent we chose a more direct gully off the summit block and also a small stream drainage from the high basin back to the meadows in the lower basin. We still had some slide alder to content with there however. Descending from the summit: Total time was 14+ hours car to car. Gear Notes: Helmet. DEET. Approach Notes: Reynolds Creek trail is quite overgrown, as is the spur road leading to the trailhead. There are only a couple tiny snow patches in the basin and above, but there is running water for now.

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