KaskadskyjKozak

No, I think his claim is they didn't get a four degree because of bad parenting and access counts for nothing. One thing's for sure. Less access to higher education is definitely better for America. Cuz, you know, college doesn't really make you any smarter - not if you don't deserve it, anyway. No correlation or causality required. Hell yeah. Drop all admissions standards and just pay for tuition 100% with taxes. One size fits all for everyone!

"PS: The biggest hurdle I face in the engineering world is people who can't write or communicate worth a damn " I'm sure they're thrilled to communicate ideas with you.

which shouldn't be too difficult since no moron follows you around smearing your person at every turn. Insults take various form: for example they can be crude or not. Your not being crude doesn't mean you don't use insults and personal attacks. Commenting in this fashion without providing a demonstration of your claims once in a while is acceptable in my book but doing it at what seems every single appearance of yours on this board puts you in the same category as KKK. YOU dispatch more gratuitous insults than anyone else in this thread j-bot.

Which people? In your work, don't you operate under the assumption that everyone should have equal protections under the law? Maybe I misunderstood you, but your statements on this board implied that you thought everyone should have access to health care. Maybe our fields of should are just more or less wide. As far as politics go, politics (when defined as a field of struggle over power) is all there is, I've never posted anything here that would suggest otherwise. Given you postings, I think we're talking about a difference in attitude, not viewpoint. We worship one thing here: Money, and we're paying the price for that on a very personal level. How do we turn America to a values based society? One issue at a time, I'd wager. Money will always be an important practicality, but it would be nice not to see American's sell their privacy, altruism, satisfaction, and health so cheaply. For example, I was at a fambly gathering this week and heard a tea bagger go on about how we should legalize drugs but allow insurance companies to charge them extra. Sounds really reasonable, right - until you get to the details, which, of course, would involve mandatory drug testing for all insured. Ie, to save a few bucks a year, this 'libertarian' was willing to give up a substantial aspect of his privacy - even down to his bodily fluids. Ever apply for a mortgage? Apply for a job? Submit to a credit check? Background check? Answer smoking or non on a life insurance form? These are all voluntary exchanges that come with a set of conditions that people can either agree to or refuse. Giving an employer consent to conduct a background check, for example, is vastly different than enacting legislation that grants the government or any other entity to do so without your knowledge or consent. The idea that anyone who is willing to disclose whether or not they smoke, drink, climb, or go cave diving in exchange for a private party selling them a life insurance policy can't have legitimate reasons for thinking that all of the above are none of the governments business is quite amusing coming from a self-described civil libertarian. Picking and choosing what to nickle and dime people with for insurance premiums is not the right direction we need to go in. We need things to be simpler with less stupid barriers rather than the other way around.

more passive aggressive behavior from you, but of course no specifics per usual. Jim seems more the openly aggressive type. More action, less talk...that kind of thing. not from my perspective since I have been the recipient of countless personal attacks below the belt from him mostly without any explanation. He seems to be playing the same game Attila plays. His challenges to your non-substance-based hand-waving are actually quite above-the-belt.

Don't electrocute yourself.

Amen to that! You finally got it right!

So that is your "platform"? Exactly the contents of that link are what you propose, with no deviation or exception to anything? You might try dropping your content-less stream of insults and babbling-terminology-spew and actually state a solution for once, j-bot.

j-bot offers nothing but arm-waving. You can try to twist that arm all you want to give a "solution", but past experience has shown that what he has to offer is nothing but a denial of reality (e.g. the whole question about addressing state-deficits when tax-increases have been rejected repeatedly by the voter), and a refusal to consider any alternative that involves any kind of sacrifice, whether it be a budget cut, or personal lifestyle change (cue up the "austerity narrative" in 3...2...1). Having some kids wait a few years working is not a bad idea. Considering the propensity for a good number of freshman to guzzle beer and hit the clubs, I'm not sure I buy the idea that money and time is really as dear a resource to quite a few as is claimed. Working part time is an option as well - cut course load/units from 16 to 12, work part time and take 5 years instead of 4. Doesn't seem that bad an idea.

Amen. Or their parents. It's not like people on this very thread will not be taking out 6 figure loans to pay for their kids' educations.

LOL. I almost went up that same chimney last year... my partner looked amused. Before I started he told me there was an easier chimney around the corner. :-) Nicely done, Gaucho!

Guess that's why it is so valuable (expensive).

Yes, education is "good" - for a lot reasons. Good things are not cheap, and there's no such thing as a free lunch. You seem to want to deny both. So what is your "solution" to rising costs of higher education? Other than just shifting the payments for the rising bills to someone other than you, that is.

That's a standard regressive talking point: denying that higher leads to better outcomes allows them to say that decreased access to higher edu isn't a crisis. OH NOES ANOTHER CRISIS!!!!

Your "solution" is to just transfer more of the cost to the taxpayer. Why is tuition so high, do you think? What effect do scholarships have on the tuition for those not getting the scholarship, for example? And of course, you'd never want to cut anything from public university budgets, not you, no-sir-ree - that would be so AUSTERE. Cue up the austerity-shill-regressive narrative in 3...2...1...

have another drink folks, Attila once again thought that accusing someone of "whining" would be supporting evidence for his knuckle-dragging. You've had a few too many already, evidently.

Life is tough.

This is all about Prole whining about his student loan debt. Education should be "free"!!!

That would be the site of the extra-terrestrial Rothschild's compound.

Check Alpine Lakes forum - there are a couple recent trip reports.

That's hot.

worse = the status resulting from whatever changes people like you would effect I think it's "affect?" No, it's effect. "infect" would also be a propos in the case of Prole's agenda.

worse = the status resulting from whatever changes people like you would effect

why do you hate Jews?

Right back at you. Your "points" just smack of the usual whining about the world and how it's not fair or whatever. We live well in the US and you can succeed if you want (and actually try). Whine away about how you have no voice and are manipulated like a puppet by your bogeyman all you want. Or do what you can do have a decent life and then actually enjoy it. Take a look out the window. It's pretty damn nice out. Is "the man" keeping you from enjoying that?