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And let's please not forget that hunters pay for 100% of the costs of managing these herds. That includes keeping track of them, selectively feeding groups that have starved below acceptable levels, innoculating herds from completely devestating diseases when/where appropriate, etc etc etc. Wow, Really? 100%? Does that include the cost of the salaries of the fish and wildlife guys, too? Wow, hunting fees must be enormous! Either that or you don't think that the average taxpayer is responsible for some of the work that fish & wildlife do. Or, maybe we should charge hikers everytime they see a nice birdie or bambie?

Back when I hunted, I didn't view it as a sport, no more so than growing my own vegatables was a sport. I wanted to know where my meat was coming from. It was work, that had some sporting elements (like using a trad bow). But I know a lot of hunters viewed it as a sport, which was part of the culture about the entire experience that I didn't like. Well put. Although I am not against hunting as a sport, I do not personally hunt for sport. I do not consider my impetus for hunting superior than those who hunt for their own entertainment (I am, of course, against poaching). I started hunting b/c I couldn't afford meat any other way. On the other hand, I fish and I pretty much only catch and release. In essence, I only fish for my own entertainment. This, on my mind, is ethically equivalent to those who hunt for pleasure. And yes, the animal is not killed--but I think the logic is about the same. So, you spent $$$ for a tank of gas, a gun, ammo, licenses, those cool looking technicolor vests, etc...because you couldn't afford chicken at .99/lb? Bwahhhh! You po black chilluns sho kno howda make up dat shit talk.... Your version of hunting is pretty different than mine. I was given my first gun, I caught a ride with my hunting buddies, I didn't and don't dress up beyond the regulation $2.99 orange overvest, paid the $48 Idaho license fee and bought a $15 box of ammo and had meat for myself, my man, and my random guests for a year. My meat was clean and butchered by me in my clean kitchen. I stored it in a chest freezer I bought used for $25. And I know that the animal lived well and died quickly (b/c believe it or not, I actually like animals and don't want them to live in feed lots). I know I will never change anyone's mind about hunting with my logic and my feelings behind my actions. But I do think it is important to discuss it--especially with people who "embrace diversity" and all that shit (that may not be you, but I'm just saying...). Different strokes for different folks.

I actually emailed him last night. His offer was a bit low so I thought I'd look here. Thanks for the link though, that was sweet of you.

Yeah, but he doesn't get whiskey. nyah nyah nyah

And let's please not forget that hunters pay for 100% of the costs of managing these herds. That includes keeping track of them, selectively feeding groups that have starved below acceptable levels, innoculating herds from completely devestating diseases when/where appropriate, etc etc etc.

Back when I hunted, I didn't view it as a sport, no more so than growing my own vegatables was a sport. I wanted to know where my meat was coming from. It was work, that had some sporting elements (like using a trad bow). But I know a lot of hunters viewed it as a sport, which was part of the culture about the entire experience that I didn't like. Well put. Although I am not against hunting as a sport, I do not personally hunt for sport. I do not consider my impetus for hunting superior than those who hunt for their own entertainment (I am, of course, against poaching). I started hunting b/c I couldn't afford meat any other way. On the other hand, I fish and I pretty much only catch and release. In essence, I only fish for my own entertainment. This, on my mind, is ethically equivalent to those who hunt for pleasure. And yes, the animal is not killed--but I think the logic is about the same.

Dating?

Um, climbing? Spraying maybe?

and I love raspberries!

I want to try a torta. Sounds super good!

I like capitalism.

not that I have anything against ass monkeys

I love music I can feel in my chest. Klipsch are the best horns ever. And they are made in America!! I can't wait to start a serious search for my next setup!!

Yes, genius boy. It is a generalization made from six years of experiences talking about hunting around folks who live in Seattle. This may come as a shock to you, but most human beings learn by catagorizing (i.e. generalizing) their experiences and drawing a conclusion from them. I don't face each and every conversation about hunting as if it is my first conversation about hunting. And yes, that means I come equipped with a few pre-conceived notions (having earned them through previous conversations/experiences). It also means I am just as human as the people I am talking to. Oh, and nice hippie generalization. As you will note, I did not mention "hippie" in my posts here.

I'll bet he got to feel what its like to get divorced for a bit right after that...

I know this is spray, but I am not sure if I should put something non-climbing for sale in the yard sale. I am an audiophile and have a great set (2) of Klipsch Forte II floor speakers with a seperate floor subwoofer in addition. I love Klipsch and am just planning on moving to a different Klipsch setup--but I need to find a new home for these first. PM me if you are interested and tell me the range you might be willing to pay. Thanks, A Oh, and discussion about how awesome Klipsch is can go here....

and cheese. Lots of cheese.

I don't eat much store bought meat. I hunt and if I don't get anything (which is NOT going to happen this year) I will buy occasional meat stuffs from the store. What's funny is that people in Seattle get all nuts about the hunting thing, yet they'll still have a burger and wear leather shoes. Hell, I don't even like cows.

more like victor ?valejo? is what I am thinking. You know, the guy who had a lot of his work in Heavy Metal and whatnot. Who remembers that dude's name? I loved his work (back in my fevered comic book phase)

I'm having lasagna for lunch today.

I found the home of my dreams yesterday.

This thread is about waffles.

Amazing how people have a tough time seperating that, isn't it?

bummer

cock waffle?