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Compare to Molly: Or perhaps Keira?

The above face makes me shudder.

green is not your color. some people have these bodies naturally. What made you so goddamn idealistic? You sound like Johnny Destiny these days. i see Muffy is not the only one wearing green today... wassamasta? fall of the V1 you've been projecting for months now? Strange how I'm younger and you're still more idealistic. Like a little kid. How sad. MisterE: now yer talkin!

You're rolling your eyes at something you don't know anything about. He's not the only person who has that opinion. How do you know I don't know anything about it?

Matt, it's like a Puritan's aversion to sex. Illogical. Just pray that you'll never be his lawyer.

green is not your color. some people have these bodies naturally. What made you so goddamn idealistic? You sound like Johnny Destiny these days.

No, it's just ice cream.....

Lecherous stalker.

No, I remember seeing it, too. here

I would if I could but I can't so I won't.

Quite obvious. Is they? Consider stopping off at the library on the way down to the gym, so that in your next post you'll be able to spell "hipocricy". Sorry Pope, the library is outdated. According to Google, it's spelled "hypocrisy". It's 2003, man, get with it!

"You know, I love paralleling on tele gear. You just get that feeling that you don't get with locked heels. " -some dude on teletips.

MisterE:

Word, Luke. on.

You're confused because you're confusing the aesthetic beauty/environmental concerns angle with the ruined climbing potential/climbing concerns angle. There are many arguments for and against rock modification. It is not just "ooh icky trash" versus "but dude I couldn't climb it without these bolts", though those are two of the most obvious issues. What's your point? Pope's hipocricy and your stupidity is quite obvious. I'm off to the gym. Have fun spraying, Chief!

Squaw, you weren't talking about the visual effects of bolts, you were spraying some touchy-feely bullshit about inspiration. This is irrelevant to your argument. Please continue, I feel the enlightenment seeping in.

Don't be silly. Of course, anything, when taken to extremes, is destructive.

I'm getting completely confused by this Pope guy. Now it's OK to have a nice bolt if there's death potential on a route without it. Cool. And a bolt is legitimate if and only if it's be put up on lead. But how is the ground-up bolt different from the rap bolt? It's the same goddamn piece of steel! And on most sport routes it would be socially responsible to bolt them, because without bolts they'd have groundfall potential! But that's not OK. I want to go skiing. Then I only have to argue about gear.

Cuz it's fun? After all, every Dick, Tom, and Scott can climb Realization. See above. Oh, how about the Salathe? Don't get touchy-feely on us now. Consider that others are inspired by other accomplishments. Chief, um, Scott, if you were arguing against bolts because they reduce the aesthetic appeal of crags, you'd have a point. But as you're not, you don't.

But if you blow the crux of the Fly you 'fly' past the 3ft landing zone onto a much lower and nastier landing zone, at least from what I've seen in the movies. And didn't some french guy break an ankle despite the pads trying to repeat Evilution?

but climbers go out of there way to go on a climb and should be prepared for he endeavor. 6 year old crossign the street do so out of necessity. weak juxtaposition. bolts are for safety? well if you are concerned about safety, then climbing is not the sport for you. people die all the time doign this sport. this is a sport of calculated risks. if you aren't up for a certain climb then wait until you get stronger/bolder (alaCroft) and climb that shit! Nice chestbeat for a wanker! PS Rudy, I nearly sprayed coffee out of my nose!

Pads damage vegitation and big falls disrupt the natural landscape! Hence this will not work either, Chief! Stay at home and watch TV, and the crags will not be marred.

or you could bash pins into it and clip them w/ stolen 'biners for the truly ethical and pure ascent...