Darasius, I moved your thread out of this forum as the responses were going on beyond what we (the owners) want to see in a forum that is not the Spray forums. There may indeed be good information in the thread, but we really don't have the time to go through and weed out the content that we objected to.
The rest of you know better. I certainly want everyone to have fun here, but there are limits we would like to keep Climbers Board (and other non-spray forums) within. Spray exists for the colorful conversation, otherwise keep the non-spray forums as something you would feel comfortable with your 10 year old child reading.
You'll find your thread in Spray.