Sphinx

Does WT stand for Wild Things?

Cause it's a noble way to kill yourself. Listen up, j_b.

You bore me to tears.

Itts chust Muffi's spelingg aggen. Nuthingg to wurry aboot.

Instructor experience ranges from two to twenty... as said before, less-experienced instructors are paired with more-experienced. Mounties don't learn gear anchors right away. They learn girth-hitching a tree and that's about it. Beginners sport-climbing is a relatively new thing in the mountaineering community as a whole... the last twenty years at the most? Being able to climb 5.X at the gym is about the least important thing there is for general mountaineering. But knowing how to tie a figure 8, belay, and rappel isn't. The gym can be a valuable tool. Besides, if they spent a few sessions in the gym they might actually be able to climb the tooth; I saw one mountie chick get stuck on the second pitch for half an hour.

mountie

I also started climbing to get away from pathetic losers. Then I realized my mistake. I'm sticking to hiking from now on.

Whatever.

Go slog up a volcano. I heard Oregon has some good ones. Don't stay in WA, the climbing sucks here.

I guess I was wrong, cause if you could read my mind, you would be running away Cum get some, you know you want it.

Good thing I'm not rerading anything.

But difficulty does play a role. Oh, fuck, why do we care. If you're a climber, you'll know.

Fence Shitter is an arrogant little impotent fuck. I am a lofty, well-rounded, wise old man.

I started climbing because I thought I could impress my buddies with it. Turns out I was right.

I'd say you're a climber if you love the sport, and stick to it for a significant amount of time. There are quite a few very, very good climber who only get out once every two weeks or so.

ummm that would be me I'd agree on the female voice part, I don't know about 'reason'.

So you're paranoid, too? Damn, when's the last time you saw your shrink? You're not off you night meds are you?

BECAUSE CC.com SUCKED ME IN!

So you're saying that the media are attention whores grovelling in the dirt? Yes, I agree. And Clinton was a sleazy bastard who got was he deserved? Yes, I agree. Bush is a tool? I disagree. I'd say he's a very poor speaker, but I agree with some of his decisions. Overall, though, politicians, including shrub, are sleazebags. Now crawl back into your little hole.

Quit squealing!

porker porker!!!! SprayShaw, don't you have a job to go to or something?

Good point. It's the best response to your post.

So what is your point? The Basic Course is not a climbing class, it is a mountaineering course with all that entails: fitness, route finding and navigation, equipment, weather resources, roped travel, crevasse rescue, etc. It is up to the students to become good climbers on their own. The mountaineers just give them the tools to be safe. Catbirdseat, you gotta crawl before you can run. You can't teach everything at the same time. Don't try to teach navigation, belaying, pro placement, rope mangement, and fitness on the same climb. Start by learning the ropes at a crag, gain fitness by hiking, learn orientation in the city park for starters, etc.