glassgowkiss

the silence of people like KK and fairweather only points out how washed out this administration really is.

an independent council can investigate whether a president received a blow job, i would think the investigation into pre-iraq lies is way more warranted. but that's besides the point. the point of my topic is, that soldiers are send to the war zone, they are injured and killed. and after their deployment is done they are left without help, so are their families. and this is absolutely and utterly fucked! and this fuckface is talking about offering his prayers instead of a legit help.

the best method would be to make sure that heads roll- including the president's. a full scale investigation should be in order. but of course the administration would wrap themselves in american flag and claim that any such attempts would be unpatriotic

Yeah, let's skip back 5 years and discuss that issue again. The point now is that we are sacrificing around 800 lives a year, and spending over 100 billion year to do it. There was supposed to be a transition of security to the Iraqis like what 3 years ago? Instead we do the work for them. And there is no end in sight on that. the issue was never discussed. presenting a bunch of lies never constituted for a discussion imo. so where are the weapons of mass destruction? and most of all- where is bin laden?

In my book the significant numbers was around 2,974 no, the significant number is 120 days and 70K. as usual you are missing the point.

first ascent is counted only if the route is led. when it comes to gear routes the gear must be placed on lead. don't get me wrong- i am guilty of pre-placing gear on couple of lines (at smith) long, long time ago. however the style placing gear on lead is established for a long time ever since, hence imo first ascent claims on gear routes using such tactics are dubious at best. vide skinner's ascent of city park and salathe to name a few. in the past Climbing was notorious for running stories submitted by spray-lord wannabe wankers. looks like they are back to the old form.

http://www.climbing.com/news/hotflashes/pizem_completes_513_roof_crack/ climbing strikes again! yet another spray story, most likely submitted by local spray lord going to press without any reason. i don't think it's really a gear route if the gear is pre-placed, regardless of how hard it is. imo this route still waits for a true FA.

who cares!

last fall i talked to a park ranger there, who btw is a climber. so far there are no plans to allow any type of fixed anchors around newhalem crag. also at this point there is hardly any reason, since much better cliff was discovered around MT Vernon.

from NPR: "Our strategy going forward will be aimed at making sure that we achieve victory and, therefore, America becomes more secure," he said. Just last week, Bush said the high cost in lives and treasure was necessary to halt the spread of terrorism and keep Iraq out of chaos." Hey deepshit- there were no terrorists before the invasion- you'd know that if you did read reports from CIA! here is another cherry: "One day people will look back at this moment in history and say, 'Thank God there were courageous people willing to serve, because they laid the foundations for peace for generations to come,'" Bush said after a State Department briefing about long-term diplomacy efforts. wow! newsflash you fucking retard: T-A=0! let me see- first of all vets who come back to the US must wait 120 days before receiving benefits like health care or counseling. CNN announced today that over 70 thousand of soldiers serving in Iraq and (let's not forget) Afghanistan applied for financial help, since their families suffer hardship and can'r make the end meet. Instead offering them your fucking prayers better raise their paychecks and fulfill your obligations after they come back home!

that is exactly the point! I mean the whole issue was misrepresented from minute one. looks like for now purchase of this several million dollar property secured two things: jack and shit. i wonder which property owner will grant access for several hundreds of cars a day to cross their property?

this is the part i don't get: " We are in negotiations for an easement through another piece of private property that would allow access over the long term", said Anne Armstrong, TLC's regional manager, Okanagan Region. "And we are confident these negotiations will come to a satisfactory conclusion." i thought the land deal was done and now they are planning on road/parking lot/camping

i don't get it. first the access is restricted, then the parcel is purchased for several millions of dollars and now the access is back to Dunlop farm! What happened to the purchase of the lot?

aren't you fucking hard core!

ahh it seems as though the question needs to be posed back at ya. hey asseyes- i lived it- have you?

do you really think chinese government gives a flying fuck what western countries think? plus they know for fact all the fuss would end on empty rhetoric. thanks to bush and his stupidity we have a resurrection of soviet union. so here is the question: when the fuck are you people are going to get a clue what communism is all about!?

wrong- brilliant bush economics and strategy. a lot has to do with level of dollar. oddly enough in canada the gas did not go up all that much.

nomic simply forces you to carry a hammer. imo it's another thing to mess with. i also think lack of hammer on nomic is a huge draw back for other wise an excellent tool. is the terminator wall picture from this season?

nomics should be renamed gimics. how are you supposed to pound pitons with them? this tool might me good for craging at ice park in colorado. a lot and i mean a lot of routes in ranges like rockies need pins for pro. the idea of making a tool without a hammer is a big miss on part of petzl (i like most of their products and they treated me very well over the years- thanks Dave!). quarks are a great tool, so were ergos. new vipers are a very good choice for a price too. i like the swing of nomic, but they are pretty much limited to craging.

wrong, 14% doesn't even offset B/O tax in WA. plus you don't have stupid city tax. plus their L&I insurance is much lower. even with 5% in sales tax difference at least they have roads you can drive on in winter. what we get in return is jack and shit. not to mention better health care.

oh just fuck off! at least they don't fingerprint you when you enter the country. americans are "well liked" in many parts of europe, right!

"Mountaineering, and trad climbing to some extent is the opposite." yeah, right. leaving oxygen bottles, fixed ropes and other garbage on tall peaks was a norm from day one. not to mention garbage left on the nose and such routes on el cap or half dome was a domain of the climbers stemming back to the late 60's and early 70's. it took a new generation of climbers to clean your shit up. besides- aiding routes equals PERMANENT chipping of the rock. somehow you don't list fixed pitons to your list of environmental offenses. just friggin' climb something like outer space and see how much so called "clean gear" is in this crack. "The environmentally unfriendly part comes with the attitude that "sport-climbers" have the right to install artificial permanent alterations to the landscape whenever and wherever they please. In my opinion, people should strive to climb "clean" and bolts should be RARE." so according to you it's ok to place bolt on alpine routes? and who decides when? is it when a run out is too much for your small nutsack and puckered asshole? "You'd think that by now outdoor-oriented folks like climbers would understand the "leave little trace" philosophy but "sport-climbers" seem to be one of the worst offenders. You might (maybe) pick up your granola bar wrappers, but you leave a permanent mess of metal affixed the crags." not to mention ski resorts, atv users, mountain bikers.... right?

the fact of the matter is that a lot of posters here doesn't even know what hard climbing feels like. just a bunch of angry monday morning arm chair quarterbacks..... and even if she gets recognition- don't think it's her motivation. it's the satisfaction when you clip the anchor stupid....

http://mounteverest.net/news.php?id=17097 sometimes it's hard to separate climbing and politics. looks like another "friendly gesture" of a "democratic" government

5 months of rehearsal doesn't. Not so. There is a pattern to my discontent. Much of it involves environmentally dubious "sport-climbing" and secondly, it's stylistic practices, some of which have been incorporated into trad-climbing(e.g. hangdogging, seige-climbing - like the above 5 month exercise ). 5.14 trad crack...nice effort; siege climbing, however, doesn't impress me. really- the matter of fact is who cares what this wank stain has to say. most likely he is just some fat fuck, who can barely get his sorry ass up slabby 5.6. his incredible finger strength was developed through rigorous regime of typing endless number of most stupid posts on this forum. i am sure his climbing resume includes several free routes on el cap as well as several 5.14 on sight and gear protected. the truth is that this piece of shit wanker didn't even earn the the stripes to voice his opinion on this topic