cluck

Driving in europe is different than driving in the US. Motorists in europe (well at least western europe) pay much better attention than we do here. Not that this has much to do with anything, but it's actually common practice to pass cars on a 2-lane road with oncoming traffic. The car getting passed moves off to the right, the oncomming traffic moves off to the left, and the car passing straddles the yellow line. Since everyone on the road knows what's going on, as long as the road is wide enough to accomodate 3 vehicles then it's no big deal. If you tried that move over here, you'd get smashed to smithereenies.

cluck...stfu...55 on deserted desert highway in good weather conditions is completely, totally STUPID!!! I'm not agreeing with the speed limit on that stretch of road - I'm just saying don't make up bullshit lies just because you think you deserve special treatment.

Try to get the fine reduced or whatever, but committing perjury isn't an acceptable option - regardless of the example set by our former president. You were speeding and got caught. Suck it up and take your punishment.

I might have a pair of size 12's I'd be happy to part with. Not sure if I've thrown them out yet, so I'll look for them over the weekend. I'll PM you if I find 'em.

Claiming the last ascent isn't exactly as prestigous as a first ascent, but that's pretty cool none-the-less. Who was the last to climb it prior to the great blast of 2004?

Thanks, NOLSe. Any of those piles of rocks on the west side? I'm not looking for classics, just a pile large enough to practice gear placement and maybe get off of the ground a bit. I'd definitely have to get out to Beacon and Broughtons sometime, but I'd like to get started somewhere where I won't be bothering anyone if it takes me an hour to climb 10 feet.

Definately clean. Why ruin free routes with pin scars, right? I'm hoping for somewhere I can hit after work, but I live in BeaverTRON so just about everywhere is a 45 minute drive away.

Anyone have a reccomendation for a good spot to practice aid climbing near Portland? I guess I could always go to Rocky Butt and tinker around. Are there any routes there that would be good for practice without being in anyone's way?

Wow - way to take advantage of the late season weather. North Cascades under clear skies make for majestic views for sure. Thanks for the great pics! They tell the story by themselves.

Ahh...Lightning dome - that place is sweet. It holds a special place in my heart cuz it's the first multipitch climbing I ever did. Of course, our routefinding was atrocious and after much flailing we retreated via several ackward double-rope rappels. Enjoy!

Got ya Sexual Chocolate. No noise in public spaces. By god, I'm going to call the cops because all the damn cars and buses in downtown Portland make all kinds of racket when I'm trying to do a little zen meditation. Get real.... I don't think most are advocating the lowest common demoninator and unchecked madness, but at the same time your right for peach and quiet doesn't "Win" over someone else's right to have a bit of fun. Again, if anyone expects solitude at camping space in close proximity to the most popular crag in the state of Oregon, I'm just suggesting that they are looking in the wrong place.

Some people want to party in the campground, some people want to sleep quietly. Who gets their way? When I want to drink it up with my buddies, I try to compromise by picking a spot away from others, parking my vehicle between our campfire and other tents, and directing the conversation away from other sites if possible. However, I expect a similar amount of understanding from the folks who would rather have things quiet. Wear earplugs, stick to the Ranger Rick campgrounds, or just deal with a little noise. Unfortunately, the partiers have the ability to easily ruin a peaceful nights slumber, whereas the quite lovers can't do much to mess things up for the louder folks (save for calling the cops).

Here is my question.... what was the cop's solution to the interesting proposition of people talking too loud, outside in a public place? Can you get busted for talking too much and disturbing someone else's sleep? I think the folks expecting "quiet" and "sensitivity" have chosen the wrong sport. Can't tell you how many times I've been awakened camping by.... animals, my tentmate's snoring, gale force winds, and yes, sometimes even other climbers. If all you are looking for is a good night's sleep, stay at home, get a hotel room, sleep in your car somewhere, get ear plugs or get over it.

How bad was the Broken Top route you described? Its hard to figure out on this damn site when something is horrifying but the hard man ethic leads posters to down play the climbing with stiff upper lip English gentleman terms like "spicy" or "interesting" to describe climbing that is a sphincter cliching, near death experience versus a climb that is somewhat tricky and merits caution but is reasonably doable by even those of us with families to consider. So what gives? Death voyage or not? Thanks for sharing some choss beta.

I've been somewhat unsatisfied with my Precip jacket. It's waterproof, but doesn't breath worth a damn and I'm often faced with the choice of being soaked by rain or soaked by my own sweat. I've only been happy having it along for late summer/fall trips where I can use it to fend off suprise squals but it's cold enough that I won't sweat too much.

Last I knew.... RMI had dibs on the routes from Paradise (DC). Other guides work over the east side stuff (like Emmons).

I'm the bad ass climbing chicken that was hanging out with these 4 wankers. RBW1966 and Shred... we were a group of 4 not 3... think you guys were on Becky a few groups behind us. Think it was our team. Sky and Cavie. Then the group of 3 (or at least we talked to a group of 3 before we took off on P1... 2 guys and a girl)

That's so funny! We did Liberty Bell Sunday morning as a party of 4 (well, 2 parties of 2 actually, but sharing gear). I guess you and Skykilo were the ones we were sharing the route with the whole way. I was cracking up when Skykilo broke out the bag of chips on the summit. And, thanx for entertaining our shameless requests for 1,000 summit photos. I believe this is your handiwork: Glad to share a great weekend with so many cc.gapers, just wish I had known who everyone was at the time.

Sure you want to do Hood South side this time of year? Perhaps you know this, but the upper mountain is very loose & crappy when it doesn't have snow. IMHO, not all that safe and not very fun. Food for thought.

Spent the weekend climbing beautiful granite at Washington Pass. We only did the bumbly routes on Lib Bell and SEWS, but it was great fun anyway. Super crowded, but everyone was friendly and we shared beers with a few folks in the parking lot afterwards.

Don't forget Aloha (uh-low-UH). Not to be confused with the Hawaiian word for hello/goodbye - Aloha (uh-low-HA) (--)

Anywhere in the crater that time of year you take your chances with missles. I'm just saying the Old Chute is an alternative to the traverse between a rotten cliff and the bergie required to reach the Pearly Gates.

Of course! When you get to the Hogsback, go around the bergschrund to climbers left. Once around, you can probably just head straight up to the summit (via Mazama Chute aka Old Chute) instead of traversing back across on the uphill side of the bergie. West Crater Rim is typically reached by passing on the west side (climbers left) of Crater Rock and skipping the Hogsback entirely.

And they pronounce the word "elevator" like "lift"

Nooksack, or Nuttsack? ?