To all the jerk-offs who claim that
a. a bowline will not remain attached to you if it is tied incorrectly,
and
b. that a clove hitch is a strong "knot":
Tell Lynn Hill that a bowline won't stay attached to a harness if it isn't completely tied. She nearly died because it did.
As for a clove hitch, they slip at roughly 1000lbs. So no, it isn't 'strong', per se. But since people only use clove hitches for anchor setups, etc, there is no danger, and if one slips it simply helps equalize the system. I use a figure-8 because it's second nature, I don't have too many problems untying it (200 lbs, shut up), it's bombproof, and easy to inspect.
This is SUCH a stupid argument.... On a Friday night, no less....