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You talking about Denny Mtn? I know there is a gully on its West face that is a major mineral site ( Rockhound Gulch) but that is accessed via the Melakwa Lake Trail, you stay right of the creek at the second crossing. One could access the ridge via that gully but its pretty chossy. Mineral wise its really a cool area, a skarn zone where igneous rock has intruded a limestone bed. The contact zone has created a phenomenal zone full of Quartz Crystals, Pyrite, Garnet, Epidote, and a myriad of other minerals in "Vugs" ( pockets) within contact zone. LOL Im sure you really dont care but its still geologically a neat area.

Bravo!

Hey E-Rock dont blame me for the poor spelling/grammar. That was taken from a direct quote about me from Michael_Layton. (I respect his perceptive qualities immensely!) (message shortened for brevity)

the above image instantly marginalizes any comments you make on the matter LOL, I was trying to blend, the hardened climber persona with the gentle hiker persona, thus solidifying my stance as an individual of diverse perspectives. I guess THAT didnt work

Hiking actually is cool I routinely put in 18 to 27 mile days. Phenomenal conditioner if you toss in good elevation gain and a six pack of Obsidian Stout at the end! I will be the Jimmy Carter in this dispute:)

wow those look cool! Sounds like they might be smooth and sweet. Flyn brian showed me his 2 aider trick but I am still a gumby with 3.

Kanasket, WA/Green River Semi-Urban, 50-100' leads and Top-rope routes, glueup and carved on concrete pillars on the Green River. 5.10 to 5.12. Access concerns: I havent been here in 7 years but good sources tell me peeps still climb here. You still need to respect BNRR postings, local property owners, and trucks full of rednecks toting guns. GPS Data: 47,18.916/121,53.316

Common courtesy should be the norm. I, as a cyclist, fully respect others and do my best to minimize my disruption of others daily flow. Thank me for also not using gasoline and leaving it for you to blow on your jetskis and three wheelers. Ok, I gotta go, so many trees to hug, so little time!

The human Bladder is composed of transitional epithelium, one of the only "skin"/tissue cells that will shrink and expand according to need. Thankfully

I have seen too many bad bolt jobs in pristine locales. Bolting next to gear is one thing but bolting a formation just to do it is bunk, especially if you do a sloppy ass job. Theres this 30 foot flake/arch deal in the Kolob section of Zion, the first bit is rotting flake to a neat looking arch on bright orange rock with black streaks. A physically beautiful formation...some dolt needed to climb it and now this section is affixed with studs, wires, a drilled angle and rotting slings. Looks like crap. Granted, its a "route" but it might go naturally or it might not, depending on the individual. Have the balls and do it right in the first place is my feeling.

Heya! Lol I guess I am an arrogant idiot . But a darn nice one . Your points are well taken and I like my new title as well! But yeah the lethal descents aspect of Red Rocks routes makes them fairly serious undertakings w/o the proper beta. I guess I am just a closet misanthrope that chooses to come out periodically. LOL be safe and have fun!

The Very first Bjornstad Guide "Desert Rock" was and is the best. Cool pics, routes, and best of all, local anecdotes, history and geology and environmental information ( cryptobiotic soil, flora, and climbing impact). His subsequent volumes tend to lack the historical aspect and alas, some of the mystique of the first single volume.

Actually, having just moved from Red Rocks I must say the Red Rocks guide dosent suck ( as a local I found that many visiting climbers tended to whine alot about being lost or the inconveinience of having to actually use their heads to find a crag ), cest la vie. I must say tho that these were generally the sport climbing crowd. The long routes in the canyons got a much hipper crowd. The best guidebooks, have the least amount of "mommas boy" data ie; Detailed topos, locator pics, GPS waypoints, the word dude, and etc. As far as I am concerned, basic route info, general directions, light beta and a HEFTY dose of history would be sufficient. Too many people consider/expect "The Guidebook" to be the ultimate reference, to hold their hands as they walk from route to route. Dont get me wrong, I have a huge collection of guidebooks in my library but the excitement of adventure and discovery should still be a BIG part of outing. I dont need a running beta to have fun. Best guide book IMHO: Paul Pianas, Black Hills Needles guide ( it has good info and a buttload of history and cool pics) Worst guidebook: Any sport climbing guide. ( although I must admit the generic quality tends to require more delineation ) Anyhow, the ultimate goal is fun and each of us perceives and achieves that in their own way.

The meal scene in the Glen Denny movie El Capitan ( complete with pins and canned tuna ), and the waking up shots of Lito Tejada-Flores I think rank right up there into "uber cult-status" dirtbagging. Actually the whole frigging movie is the epitome of uber dirt-bagging. Awesome flick!! )

I seem to remember a fateful day a couple of parties ahead of the final party on Princely Ambitions...I always popped a cam in behind that big flake/block. Whoosh. Time is a great equalizer.

Slabs are not cutting edge?

Dru seems to have a pretty decent taste in tunes... beats all that "pop hop" stuff all the kids are listeneing to. My 2c add: Inlakesh , Infected Mushroom , and FSOL But again, WTF do I know muahaha

Ant fall can dole out some serious damage. I had a similar exp where a friend slipped one foot, it caught on a rugosity and ripped up his peronials (trashed ankle). Its the small stupid stuff that gets ya.

Err yeah, its the Evercrack addiction, consuming me

It was an idea that had promise, but I think that in reality it turned out to be mostly impractical. I have drilled holes and then gone back a couple months later to install a bolt in them and had a very difficult time finding the hole -- even when I stood on exactly the same footholds that I used when I drilled the hole! It might not happen on overhanging rock, but otherwise an empty hole can fill with debris and disappear very quickly unless the outside edges of the hole were chipped to make a larger scar. In overhanging rock, most of us would be a little leary of the expanding/removable anchors. You could.. like.. make little plugs with a puppet head of your favorite muppet or rock star and put them in the hole to keep the hole clean and ease visibility? PC-7 a little keeper wire to the rock to keep the plug from falling away?

Tacoma is improving, really... The YMCA even has a climbing wall (uhhh yeah). Im really impressed tho, its amazing if you leave and area for a length of time you really realize how nice your former home was. The green, the moisture, the water. WOW. Regardless, if any of ya are in Tacoma, drop by the Starbucks on the UW campus and say howdy, im the follically challenged fello behind the bar. ( To temper any anti-Starbucks flames which will most surely follow, Ive been working at *$ for 14 years and find it to be a fun job with mostly cool peeps. The corporate aspect isnt my fave but hell when I started we only had 32 stores. )

DOH, I was in Vegas for awhile, not Mars. hehe. ill be keeping my distance from that one

My 2c, Slabs are meant to be runout. Static point, GPA, J-Tree, et al have a rich history of low angled route that inspire perspire. Learning how to fall and wearing the proper non-lycra/shorts attire helps. I respect the first ascentionist choice and if i havent the nads to lead it, ill walk away or if I want it bad enough, find a way to TR it. It totally adds flavor to a route and a locale. What gets me is the genericification and stupification of climbing that the sport climbing realm has wrought upon the face of the sport. Kudos to those who fight the trend Anyway...replace the baddies but dont add more.

Lol, you sure are a friendly bunch

Lol, NO thats not my idea...BUT its the only area I havent heard anything about. I've been scoping all my old haunts. But actually if you must know, climbing glueups in a lush forest near a cool, green, life rich, NON alkali body of water... versus climbing in 100 degrees on a urban ghetto limestone sport crag near suburbia...i'll choose the glue ups Really, its just one aspect of climbing I enjoy. It happened to be a nice place to go, outside, protected from the rain and away from the crowds. <--- something im getting very very tired of so I choose to climb in obscure areas. Im now looking at nailing the clay banks off Point Defiance