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I visited this morning and had a blast! Great folks and a quality scene with great problems and routes. I'm planning on being a morning fixture there so shoot me a PM if anyone wants a partner for AM (off-peak) sessions!

I plan to wear a bright yellow shirt I hope we get some folks inspired as I would really love some activity down here, pub club, inspired training sessions and such. My fingers are crossed! Tenino on Weds eves would be great but alas my work schedule is fixed and I am always the closer at my Starbucks.

We pause this thread for a refreshing recap: Here we have a fine image of two male egos in their natural habitat.

Not really a "looking for partners" per se, but are any of you gonna be at the new Tacoma gym in the AM on opening day (9/15)? I'll be there to register and prob. boulder a bit before work, so if you are drop me a note or a post and if nothing else we can maybe get some sessions of the " Tacoma chapter " of CC.com. started. I would dig some more motivaton and be psyched to meet some of you folks.

WWED

Pulp Friction - Kolob Hall of Smears - Kolob

I think it all comes out in the wash. I personally think bolting and chipping are ok UNDER THE PROPER DEMOGRAPHIC SETTINGS. But I am not going to bag on someone whos views differ from me simply because I realize we all love climbing ( under our individual preferences) and we all climb because...to paraphrase Morpheus; "we're all here because were inherent disobedients". Climbing is climbing, its ALL fun. PERIOD. As long as you dont hurt me or I dont hurt you it really dosent matter. Respect the wilderness "laws" and dont be a "guberif" and well get along fine. Jesus H Schist, some of you really have a sharp stick up yer a$$'$. Just climb and have fun. PS; regarding the "natural" experience. A line of draws or bolts is perfectly harmless. What I dont appreciate are those F16's or what ever the hell they are that jack my eardrums whilst I am taking in the "Natural"...and while I am going there...people on harleys suck donkey foetus.

Boring, fucking, NON issue. NEXT..

Nice tips ALL, thanks for the info and cbs for the cool compatibility link. VERY intriguing! Ill prob sacrafice a nalgene but for a better workout I might just keep it in the glass wrapped in duct tape.

Amazing with the world in its state we still all feel arrogant enough to spray and flog eachother over such a useless topic. Does he care? I doubt it...he just wants freedom and a nice bowl of food.

Does anyone have any container recommendations for transporting alcohol (whisky/rum/vodka). I am doing a 7 day backpacking trip and am debating using the glass container OR like a nalgene lexan bottle and I couldnt find any beta on Nalgenes site regarding that. What do the pros use? What do the pros drink? Gonna prob be having 151 and cocoa for the bulk of the trip unless one of you has some stellar recipe.

Good eats: Bit and Spur and Oscars deli in Springdale. Outside the east entrance on the plateau is a great Bison grill ( I forgot the name) The big walls in Zion Canyon are a must do, BUT head up to the Kolob Canyons and spend a day up the South Fork of Taylor Creek. Some fabulous sport routes ( both jug fests and delicate slabs) and bring along a small rack for some of the nice cracks up there too ( Last Rites and Spiderfingers to mention two good ones out of a bunch that exist.) Dont forget to save a day for some canyoneering...might be a bit cool but some dry easy stuff like Behunin, Pine Creek, or Keyhole. Have fun and I will be envious! I miss this place!

Thanks FF I'll scope it out!

Hey just a quicky, You guys are a hoot when it comes to running gear through its paces and unrelenting in colorful commentary...but does anyone have a fave link to another quality site that rips or raves hardgood/softgoods for climbing/hiking/backpacking? Thanks in advance.

Ancient sandstone slab adventures:

Cool info all esp the link BreezyD. Ill be doing the Wonderland in late sep and am trying to pare down to the basics and packing my whisperlite seemed like alot of extra stuff esp if im just going to be boiling powerbars .

Just a quick question, I didnt find a reference in the CC.com search engine so ill make a quick post, any info or links would be cool. Whats a decent cartridge stove, i am looking for lightweight and as efficient as possible. Two common choices...MSR pocket rocket or the Superfly. Which would perhaps the the better? the superfly seems to me a wee bit more powerful. I know this isnt brain surgery, im just looking for a thought or two thanks!

WWES, What would ed say? Good time to re-read some Abbey and also check out this underrated and semi obscure gem. VERY poignant read IMHO, one of the first books ( its a loose collection of quotes, prose and images of the authors outdoor adventures in the early 1960's) that shaped my mind and made me really get all weepy about the wilds we love. LINK

Left un attended the body can create alot of nifty odors outside of feces and urine, but those two can contribute significantly to odor creation. I have a homeless man that hangs out around my Starbucks, he is coherent and carries on semi normal conversation but refuses to use tradition waste disposal methods. He merely shits and pees as he walks down the street or sits in benches. He is an AMAZING odor producer and the back of his pants are black. Supposedly a few years back he was at the shelter just up the street and a gang of other homeless fellows grabbed him, stripped him and tossed him into the the waterway near here. Needless to say after I had to clean out ground in poop from our outside chairs he has been banned from the store.

Being obese, esp THAT obese dosent usually mean overeating, obviously some health related issues are involved, diabetes...etc. And it does sound like others were involved so I am thinking she must have been getting some form of care, albeit on a very basic level.