Billygoat

Minx has got it! I have been thinking about starting to rate things with language instead of numbers. Let's call it what it is, subjective Ratings are a moveable feast.

Fear of loss is greed; shadow of jealousy that is.

FUCK! AAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH........................

What's up with all the fuckin' processing?! Jesus

I can see griz has had his Wheaties today.

Why do you think he hasn't been able to hold onto a woman all this time. Dru, I like the way you think

Sounds like you need a vacation, Rip... Enjoy your relaxing stay on Washington's Mt. Rainier. Bill E. Goat Head of Washington's Travel Relations Board

Well, that's the goal: wholes to halves and back to wholes again. I feel like an enchilada stuck on the reincarnation wheel...

That seems a bit capricious Marie. Didn't Mike trim your hedges?!

A guy can only process so much in a day.

Didn't Darryl Hatten just die falling from a tree during an attempt to rescue a cat?!

I went to therapy with my wife for an hour a half this afternoon.

Chris, I know what yer sayin' but I don't have the energy to tackle that right now.

Hey Josh, Griz PM me your coordinates, I'll be out in July for some climbs in RMNP. DPS has a little history on that score: mixup I guess it all depends on what is more important. You happily married Griz? That said, if you can't get the time to do your expedition right, then don't do it.

Amber was a pretty darn good troll.

On Glaciers you would want to stay roped up because of crevasses. On the ledges, no. It sounds like they were heading to a point to rope back up when he fell.

Thanks Lowell for posting that. It really puts this whole thing into perspective. I am still amazed about your recounting of those two guys, back in the twenties, that skied from one side of the Cascades to the other carrying one 25 pound pack each! That is an accomplishment.

Nice performance for that age I might have been able to do that in my twenties but not now that I am in my forties I hope those guys really did enjoy the trip and the mountains, not just use them for some stunted, athletic endeavor.

What is up with all the speed ascents?! What kind of burden do all these people carry in their souls that they need to race through life, punishing themselves along the way. I feel for them. I just do not feel the need for speed. My demons are much more re- laxed

He sure talks like he's done it before. Maybe he just sleeps with the book under his pillow, for a little osmosis action I think he is the ring leader, #1...trolling for beta to reassure a nervous flock.

You could also just "blow" them out with some nitroglycerin....But that takes a little practice. which one are you btw? I guess the East Coast guy but you talk like you have Glacier rescue experience...hmmmm

I wish I could Chuck, but I can't.

Well, if one of you falls into a crevasse, you have enough peeps to yard them out directly, so no need to know how to set up pulleys and anchors....but back to your question; whatever floats the boat when you get there and scope out the sitmo. that's what I would do. Goat

You MUST go back and get it your self young grasshopper...It is the only way to discover the jewel in the lotus.

Do a search. You'll find a lot of beta here. Sounds like there are a few ways to get "off route" but it seems to be the best way down unless you carry over to the west ridge.