Billygoat

Good stuff. Hey Mattp, maybe you and I should go. Itsacarr has gone MIA Sounds like the burl factor is present, better get going on those crunches ya think Feb-march better infill?! BTW Mattp, do you practice business law?

Thanks Mattp for that excellent beta! How about the Three fingers next door?

Talk about floggin' a dead horse. I hope Anna has recovered from all this attention.

Rainier Burgdorfer claims it is a tough one. Considering the shape I am in , we'd definately have to spend the night. I'd be psyched though. He does recommend good snow pack down to 3,000 feet to avoid a brushy start. Ice axes, crampons and a rope are needed if we want to summit. Do you have a avalanche transceiver so they can find your body should it be necessary?!

I might be interested. A couple a friends might like to go as well. Looks good from the Beckey guide. I have little experience with the area. Send me a PM with names and numbers and we'll see what we can get together. Goat

I just led my my first trad route w/o a tope rope back-up and found it to be completely mental. I was totally gripped placing gear I had to rely upon. The climb was just under my ability threshold but no one had ever climbed it before. when I climbed it a second time on tope rope I cruised right up w/o a care. It also helped to change from mountaineering boots to slippers. If I know the anchor is bomber, I'll push it. I just haven't taken a whipper on trad gear yet. As far as different styles affecting ability, I think ratings are 80% subjective and different types of rock and conditions alter the nature of any climb and climber. Even your partner or lack thereof can profoundly affect your performance/experience

Most of the mountain towns out here are more like Driggs than Jackson. If you are looking for an affordable Jackson I'd head to BC

Is highway 20 open?

So, basically, this next generation of hardperson is further removed from exposure and nature through science, technology, a healthy credit limit and a desire to see the fruits of their 401k, yet still acheive goals and solve problems that our hardman forebears could not visualize or made them cringe....or are there some nutbags in wool still out there?

That sounds like a twight profile. That's all ancient history What is the new iconoclastic hero profile Who is leading the new boundry

Aren't Becky class fours like todays 5.8s?!

It is interesting to think that all those companies employ hundreds of high dollar people who work full time figuring out ways to separate people from their money. BTW Beck, you left out starphucks.

Thanks DFA.

Up late, can't sleep?

Iain is a pagetop nabbin' fool!

What pray tell is jumping the shark?

How about Rampage with Chris Sharma, Obe Carrion and friends. A great laid back road trip. I like how they focused on the rock, and the people and not themselves. No spray about ratings or how cool they are. There was a noticable lack of product placement, as opposed to vertical limit (did anyone notice how the logos on the clothes were digitally enhanced in a few of the scenes). It was fun, well put together and had a good soundtrack. Those guys were having a blast and so was I.

Hey, if you guys are breaking skis so much, shims or lighter boots will fix that. Telemarking doesn't have to be full contact you know. I have lived in Telluride and Crested Butte and I have never heard of any telemarkers having knee injuries from their skis not releasing. The worst that happened to me was a mach-speed edge catch on T-ride melt ice that played out into a face first flail with the shovel tip catching the ice whipping the loose tail around and smackning me in the back of the head hard! I bleed all over the place and freaked out a lot of tourists. Come to think of it, that's about when I began believing in luck and predeterminism

Voile has the simple, time tested system: Three pin CRB (Complete Releasable Binding) You can also use the new compression spring cables with this set up. I, however have not used releasables, preferring to make informed decisions regarding terrain and snow pack and avoiding exposure (as well as having a firm belief in luck and predeterminism). I like to tour in on voile pins and then attach the cables for downhill runs. I do agree that not having the skis attached in an avy would be to ones advantage. But if you were on an extended tour, the loss of a ski would kick off an epic.

I wasn't able to make it off the Island, but me and a couple buds watched "Soul Slide". Good shots and soundtrack, not put together as well as Nils Larsen's "Big mountain, Little Skier". Worth seeing. We also watched Lynn Hill freeing "The Nose". Not well put together but WOW! Anyone know if The Cascade River Road is still open to the upper parking lot? I was thinking of going up there this weekend.

So, Sea to Sky. Would that be from Squamish to Pemberton?

Are you talking about touring on permanent snowfields, glaciers or off the road and through he woods or on-piste? The beginnings of snow are here!!!

Hey David, unless you have some fine tuning tweakers desire to "Tweak" I would just mount the pins chord center. I have always had good results and find most people except the vegan-nazi tele tweakers in T-ride agree with this position. Also the advice on shims is a good one.

Dude Mann, Telemarker, all we need is a few inches here on the west side to fill in the sun -cups and we're turnin'. Lets's hook up and go! PM me. Plus, get rid of those Mtn. Surfs and super-poops. Tua cross-rides or Megas with cobras or hotwires will keep you happy.

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