minx

g-spotter is on the right track. my son doesn't care to climb but he gets dragged along all the same. he doesn't have to climb but he has to come along sometimes. he's a pretty good little "approacher" if you get him on a good day. assuming that chuck's wife doesn't want to climb they have to find some balance. maybe it's every third weekend? one day some weekends, the whole weekend other times, some weekends is just family time and home maintenance? there is always afterwork. the kids are number one but by giving up your interests, i think you're telling your kids that they're the center of the universe. while they might be the center of your world, it's good for them to understand that it doesn't always revolve around them. you can find ways to spend more time with them. it doesn't always have to be a "family event". time with your kids includes helping with homework, projects around the house, going to soccer practice, skiing, movie night, dinner. what's wrong wiht saying "i'm getting up early and going to index. i'll be home at 2 to fix the fence. we can have dinner and catch a movie in the evening" no it's not a big climb. but if you do more of that it might be easier to get one or two weekends a month for a big climb. also remember, climbing season doesn't have to be all year. more time with the family when the climbing isn't as good. get your wife a hobby!

you may be the smartest one here its not as bad as these guys make it seem. just have to find the right spouse. definitely do NOT buy house if you want to get out though.

chuck is right about the flexibility. i think if you're shooting for big climbs every weekend when you have kids it'll be tough. but it seems like there'd be room for compromise. a couple times a month? alternate weekends w/your spouse? you get your activity one weekend, she gets hers the next?

oh kevbone, you clearly don't know archy.

i answered. i was just pointing out the limitations. <10 blows. what has changed in your world? that's only 5 weekends! yikes!!! assuming 104 weekend days a year -- that's not even 10% ick!

chuck--a couple of things about your poll. it's pretty broad how many kids? ages of the kids? homeowner? spouse climbs? i only have one child, who is old enough to stay home alone when he doesn't go with us.Also we only have sports and activities for one to attend. my DH climbs and skis so that reduces conflict. now the house thing...we swore we wouldn't buy a house that had a much yardwork. screwed the pooch on that one. moved into friggin stepford. i'll be landscaping for years! D'OH!!!

But in the end……we all know the wives make the rules……why? Because the women hold all the cards. They have what we (men) want. It all boils down to sex. wow-kevbone--wow you really set yourself up in an unfortunate situation. remember though, you set up and choose the dynamic of the relationship you choose to be in. damn-- i think i agree with bill

Minx, that came through on paper sounding like a loud screechy harpy bitch. Might have been my misinterpretation of your words however, but right now I'm feeling some symapthy for your Signifigant Other here. i am definitely a screeching harpy and you should feel sorry for my significant other. h/e that dumbas comment was directed at kevbone. i have no patience today for his in ability to make an obvious deduction from my post. many of us--husbands AND wives--have domestic obligations that prevent us from getting out every w/e. i just get tired of the blame the spouse game. i'd like to get out more than i do. sometimes i don't get out b/c of my husband. i don't whine about it. we talk about it and figure out how to get it done. its definitely harder when kids are small but even then there's middle ground. sometimes the yard goes unmowed and the carpet doesn't get vaccuumed. oh friggin well. so if that means i'm a loud screeching harpy--so be it. i'm just not in the mood today to spell things out for kevbone.

ok dumbass--my point is that there are a lot of people whining about not getting out b/c their wives won't let them. total BS. tired of hearing about it.

i think some of you men with wives, need wives with hobbies/friends of their own. my DH tells me he's going skiing/climbing/etc and one of 2 things happens 1) i ask where he's going and decide if i want to go too or 2) i say "great! get out of my hair." that means i can go do whatever it was i had in mind that didn't include him. now the caveat to this is that he's an excellent cook , he has plenty of skills, and on a FEW weekends a year does a project around the house w/o being asked. we usually just wait for a lame weather weekend though.

ugggh!! i hate the whole process. with apologies to my favorite HR friend, (who helped a lot when i needed to understand HR), HR at my last two jobs has been useless. although not in IT, my field is technical in nature. when hiring someone recently, weeks went by with HR screening the resumes and I only received a few. Some of them were qualified to be my boss and some of them had nothing on their resume that made them qualified. I finally went directly to HR and requested every resume that had been sent for the position. I found 10 qualified applicants. Phone screened all of them. Interviewed 3 in person and hired one. If HR had not been removed from the equation, I'd still be waiting for a good applicant. Arch- you can use my tax ID number if you'll cut me in on the tarp business.

no fairweather is a frustrated pale natured cc.com poster. MJ is a frustrated pale skinned child molester.

I am thankful for a lot of things. None of them is named Ted Nugent

By ERIC TALMADGE, Associated Press Writer Fri Jan 26, 10:42 AM ET TOKYO - Michael Jackson is back in the United States after living in Bahrain, France and Ireland. He emerged with his spokeswoman Friday to confirm to The Associated Press that he is back after more than a year in self-imposed exile following his acquittal in a high-profile child molestation trial that ended in June 2005. They also said he is on the comeback trail _ planning a pair of "fan appreciation events" in Japan in March, one of which will charge $3,300 for the opportunity to meet the Gloved One. "I can confirm that he is in the United States," spokeswoman Raymone K. Bain said. "We don't give out information regarding our client's whereabouts because of safety, and this is just an ongoing policy." During the brief conference call, Jackson read a statement prepared for The Associated Press about his plans to visit Japan and allowed only one question: How are you? "I'm fine, thank you," was his reply. Jackson, one of the best-selling artists of all time, said he has chosen to come back to Japan because of the strong support he enjoys there. "My friends and fans in Japan have been so supportive of me and my family for many, many years," he said. "My fans in Japan helped me achieve historic milestones in the music industry." Broderick Morris, the promoter working the Japan side of Jackson's trip, said they have sold 220 of 300 tickets to a "platinum VIP party" on March 8. Guests will have dinner, get autographed photos and be able to "meet and greet" Jackson for 30 seconds to one minute, he said. A less-exclusive party is scheduled for the following day. Jackson is not obligated to perform at either event, and promoters refused to comment on how much Jackson, 48, would be paid. Jackson made his first official foray back into the spotlight after his acquittal with an appearance _ again, in Tokyo _ to accept MTV Japan's "Legend Award." Last November, he allowed the syndicated TV show "Access Hollywood" to film him in the studio, working on music with producer will.i.am from the Black Eyed Peas.

i miss college. waterbash.....awwww

Wow-- I'm stunned. So many fucked up things about this thread. 1) the reminder of the underpinnings of christianity and the role of women. i guess i shouldn't need a reminder but i forget how appalling the bible is and grossly edited it has become over time. 2) more on the radar and more apalling than #1, the perverse value placed on virginity, family honor, and men's egos in some muslim countries 3)kevbone (btw- every lesbian in the country is pleased that you will not be having a sex change and don't want to be a woman)

that'll only get you a one PBR (or molson if your prefer) and won't make the avatar. but the nice effort has been noted.

there's a case of beer in it for anyone who can find me the bunny humping roadsign again

it's my DNA and you can't have it!

hey hey hey! that's not nice! just see if i clone you a nice twin for you birthday!

:lmao: dru--that's the best thing posted in weeks!!!

that post was simplified for PLC, who clearly does NOT understand DNA.

I worry about the misuse of the DNA information in a criminal proceeding but I also have other concerns. Perhaps we nationalize healthcare. Even if we don't consider the patients whose care is funded by medicare/medicaid. If the government has DNA info in a database, how long before they start using for non-criminal issues such as healthcare decisions or premiums. "i'm sorry mr. smith, your dna shows that you're predisposed as a heart attack risk, you're not eligible to receive those services b/c you're going to die early anyway"

Siblings have very similar DNA. Although you could not use a sibling's DNA to conclusively prove that someone committed a crime, you could compare DNA found at a crime scene to DNA in a databank and determine that the DNA in question belonged to a close relative of the person in the databank. --damn that sentence is way too long-- This could certainly narrow the list of suspects or at least provide a lead. that said, i'm completely opposed to a DNA databank.

hey, you finally got something right. definitely wouldn't look at you. now muffy and archie, i'd stare all day.