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  1. It's a specious argument Jayb. Just cause I was getting out, and some group of idiots offered me a lot of money to go kill a bunch of other dimwits, doesn't mean that the US loss is your gain (AND VICE VERSA). There's more than dollars and sense at stake and in the equation. There's your soul and the soul of the country. Mercenaries? Comes with a hidden price tag. That's not to say that someone who is working for XE after they get out is on the same playing field. I'm talking going to another country to work. I'd still fly "Air America" and am fine with it, our country's training is very good:-) You don't own people ya know.

     

    BTW, turned them down anyway. Once you really look at the math, it wasn't as much money as they think they want you to believe. That's all I know. Not much. Glad folks have stopped slagging on each other. As far as the "Obama the Dictator" header. If the man won't stand for election, then he's a dictator. Otherwise, take a cleansing breath Kevin. LOL

     

    Regards

  2. ps, didn't get any beans either. If someone were to spill them, I'd be cookin them right up.

     

    oh oh oh! Signals. Both my shoulders are trashed. Really! So the most important signal isn't "Belay on" or "climbing", but rather "PULL!!!!. This means that you pull up on the rope with every ounce of strength that God gave you, making passage easier for me.

     

    Now, that really is all! 7:15 comes early so go get some sleep, and I want to see a trip report too. I'll sac up and finish this liter of wine so it doesn't have to spoil and make folk feel bad about wasting food. Always thinking of you kids i am.

  3. Anyone headed out Friday from PDX and want to carpool?

     

    Bueller?

     

    You rang?

     

    I'll go if you bring the beta {that asshole Plaidman never gave me any}. But check out this gig! Woot! http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1071791/TR_The_Steeple_Coethedral_Area#Post1071791 Oh yeah, I met him to loan out my (hand) drill and forgot to ask for it. Can this be my fault? I think knot. I need to up the anty to a power drill and thus get the free beta I believe. This I will do next time. But Plaidmans a good dude despite being drilless.

     

    Anyway I'll bring: rack rope sandwiches (vegan- fair trade free range all natural and not a drop of spit in them) car, gas, bolt kit with the more power drill, 3 clowns a hula hoop, and a tricycle.

     

    You bring: grateful dead and Fish tape, 3 gallons of Crisco, shoes, harness. :-)

     

    That is all.

     

    I will divine your address from teh angels and be there at 7:15.

     

    AM.

     

     

    I will be eating dinner with some other climbers at 7:15 PM at a nice place this time not the dumpster although they claim to have gotten free tickets to a Lyle Lovette concert that starts at 8pm. Lyle Lovette? I'm like "didn't he sleep with Julia Roberts? ewwwwww". and they're like "free tickets dude" so I'm like "OK then, but I'm giving up a Denali Dave dinner/cookout to hear about this guy banging Pretty Woman, and I think that's not necessarily a good thing".

     

    And he's ugly too. But I digress. As I get hungover.

     

    am, like I said.

     

    Bill

     

    oh, forgot to mention, not sharing the sandwiches (vegan- fair trade free range all natural and not a drop of spit in them), so bring a nosh for your self. The real climbers all went off to real climbs and didn't invite us. However, if you could lower yer standards an hold yer nose then I'm sure you can deal and we can tie in with you. I didn't see this earlier as I had to boulder for 15 min. Which I did already!

     

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    Looks for my car in the am, its a real cool and awesome converted diesel wagon camper -seen here at the Troutdale factory stores. You can crash anywhere. Even right on the freeway parking strip. Incredible!

     

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    I'm currently sleeping on the couch so you need yer own sleeping bag cause I don't roll that way if ya know what I mean. Needs tires too but should make it the 45 miles out there. We could be sleeping on the couch, but as I'm the "Couchmaster", and I borrowed a pass for the parking: it's all good.

  4. Thanks for the tips Alan. I try to avoid those kinds of things so don't do that often. Need all th help I can get:-)

     

    Here's my brother, we day hiked up to Traverse Lake (and on up to the pass you see on the left skyline) and the lake was just starting to unice. Have had a lot of good adventures over the years with him. Check out the camera shaking from the shivering at the end LOL!

     

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  5. I want to get in on this minerals thing.

     

    Who do I have to talk to?

     

    Also - giant pictures of yourself in your signature for the win

     

     

    * Son. We were hiking together last week. Don't see him much any more since he moved on. I'll take it off in a bit. Too big. He hooked me up with the bro deal on some helium cams, maybe I'll change the photo to those.

     

    * Have some pictures of an old mine I crawled into on that trip last week I can up load, but the minerals may or may not be there. Nice looking cliff next to a mine, literally there were deer walking through the campsite, Mt goats, wolves, moose and wolverines in the vicinity (didn't see a one of any, but there were various sign).....if there were trout in the stream, it might be a good retirement spot:-)

     

    edit -someone already took it off, just noticed.

  6. blah blah blah nasty, needless and stupid assed shit blah blah blah

     

    Did you not read that he was out of the country working for all us us (and paid by you) when the fire occurred? His wife and daughter had to deal with it alone. Having been in a fire yourself, is that really what you want to say?

     

    Really?

  7. Oh that - the mayor (who pushed for the cuts) and his fire chief. WTF do you think they are going to say. We made a mistake?

     

    Clearly you, having now read part of an article on this subject, now know so much more than both of them. We should ignore what the experts say at the end of the story (which I quoted and you apparently didn't read) and just go with the angry bystander you quoted. Uhhh, dude, do you vote? Maybe they should elect you fire chief. Or mayor.

     

    Both? :grin:

  8. .......problem is most Americans are so goddamn dumb, they think that they can just rest on the backs of others and choose to ignore the amazing amounts of debt they are placing on their children.

     

    Ding ding ding. Is Obama still calling them the "Bush" tax cuts? Well, I suspect that we all had hopes that things would change so we could kick back and coast on borrowed (Chinese and Fed) money. Seems like around here about everyone (except jayb) thinks that it's fine to just keep driving the bus towards the cliff. We'll blame the skinflint taxpayers for not anti-ing up to put in a guard rail at that spot. But we'll wait till the bus goes over first, then all the pundits will declare how clear it was to them that this needless tragedy was going to occur: after the fact of course.

  9. I just read this whole thread.....

     

    If you get real bored, you should read the link Jim posted in the first post. They quote people who contradict the headline. As is often the case the truth didn't fit into the headline so they buried it at the bottom of the story. Jim would be a great Rush Limbaugh fan. Accept the major premise at face value, ignore the real truth, and get a bloody nose when your knee jerks up.

     

    Carey and Fire Chief Rich Brown said they are facing the same kind of cuts and budget restrictions as public-safety forces across the country. The reduction in manpower hasn't affected their ability to respond to the wildfire, they said in interviews this weekend.

     

    On June 26, when near-hurricane-force winds caused a firestorm that swept into the city, "I don't care if we had 2,000 people, there's nothing we could have done," Brown said. The city has 413 firefighters and recently graduated its first new class of recruits in five years, he said.

     

    Bach said the city is on the path toward financial implosion anyway because of overly generous pensions and too many parks.

     

    It hasn't affected the handling of the wildfire, he said.

     

    Again, Oakland lost 3500 homes. Nobody suggested to them that spending more would have done a damned thing. Of course they have made many changes in a wide variety of things as the link above says.

  10. Glad you and yours made it though Scott. My thought's and prayers go out for those who did go the fire shaft. If 39 more firefighters would have made a difference will be looked at I don't doubt. No one made the charge when Oakland, ca burned down 3500 homes that they were not paying enough taxes and that they could have saved even a single home by spending more. You all forget about that one so soon? And as Bob says in his earlier post, fire and building codes DO make a difference. They changed the codes in Oakland area after that fire. http://oaklandnorth.net/2011/10/19/twenty-years-after-the-oakland-hills-fire-what-has-changed/

     

    Disasters have always been part of life although we have it pretty damned good around here generally, and I'm not looking forward to the one where my house shakes off the foundations in the next massive earthquake. When it does, if some of you guys could not start personally attacking each other for no apparent reason: it will be better for all. That we all still have roofs over our heads (and internet access to bag on others:-) is a damned good thing, and not to be ignored and forgotten. It's trying times for some of our bros in Colo.

     

    Warm regards to all.

  11. Check out Gary Johnson. http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues

     

    I'm voting for him as I'm pretty much a social liberal, fiscal conservative leave me the fuck alone kind of guy and he's the only choice for nutjobs like me.

     

    ..and to further increase the ridicule exposure here, I swap back and forth as a registered democrat and republican depending on who is pitched in the primaries for Senate and the House (registering "independent" means you have NO vote in the primary). This election, I'm registered dem. Obama was the ONLY democratic Presidential candidate on the primary ballot. I voted for him. ;)

     

    Laugh away:-). Barack, who is a far distant 2nd place and near intolerable to me would get my vote if it was just him and Romney and they held a gun to my head and said "VOTE DUDE". Romney lost me for good with his recent comment to the effect that Obama had mishandled Iran: that he (Romney) would have invaded already had he been President.

     

     

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  12. Trip: Wallowa' - Eagle Cap Wilderness -

     

    Date: 7/9/2012

     

    Trip Report:

    Sort of not climbing as it was a backpacking trip, but I'll dig around later and post a pic of the nice wall I saw up there. - unnamed. Which doesn't mean unclimbed. Here we are on the easier (higher) of the stream crossings. I strapped my wife's pack onto mine so she didn't have to deal with it. Barefoot was kind of hard on the feet. Close to having the place by ourselves once we got to Echo lake up the West Eagle River.

     

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  13. 3/8-16. 3/8" nut, 16 theads per inch. You should probably get stainless and standard both and use what matches the bolt. A magnet will stick to the standard bolt but not the stainless. Tighten firmly with a 9/16 combination wrench. Do not over tighten. Use a flat washer of the same material as the nut, a lock washer is not needed.

    Dave A.

     

    Good advice but I'd just go with just the 3/8-16 stainless. I don't know if I'd want to be carrying stuff around all the time like that which would very rarely get used. Pretty soon you'll be carrying more crap than Plaidman ( Plaidman expeditions.com ) and climbing even slower. (LOL) If you bump into me I'll give them to you as I've got plenty. There is a (<7%) possibility that they are 10mm studs as that is what Fixe sells. A 3/8-16 UNC thread is almost dead nuts the same size as 10mm, so if your 3/8 nut doesn't thread onto the stud, don't force it and screw up the threads.

     

    Whats the location, I might know which it is.

  14. It isn't the the criminals, mentally ill, the ex-vets, pregnant mothers, gutter punks, unemployed and homeless people that are the problem friends; they are all just symptoms of a much bigger problem. It is a system that is doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results: insanity. Can you imagine a society that would put it's money into it's people instead of death machines and war? Many scoff at such a crazy idea; they say, "why, you can't just give it away; people would waste it." Down with the war/killing department; up with the peace/people department. A call to Peace is a call to compassion. I believe some famous guy said love your enemies, forgive those who do you wrong.

     

    WAIT! We got us hope and change don't we? :lmao: Do we need anything else? NO! Of course, who saw that the "change" of Bush leaving was that our country would actually become even more militaristic and start even MORE shit. Who the hell saw that coming? Not me. We've got military stationed in 130 countries they report. Holy shite!!!!! Who amongst us even knew there were that many in the world to go stick our often unwanted nose into?

     

    Actually, I generally agree with ya Larry. I don't think full withdraw and isolationism is the answer. We need to pick and chose our battles and get the very rare important one(s) nailed and fully committed too. The other down side of becoming more militaristic is that we have to pay a lot more to suppress the people we piss off by acting like asswipes. The very worst thing about the whole disaster is that since we CANNOT AFFORD IT now when things are still generally good, WE ARE BORROWING TO DO IT!!! The borrowing is not only unsustainable, pointless, senseless and counterproductive, but our children will be stuck with the bill at a time where thy will have declining resources to pay for it. Such stupidity. Big goverment.

     

    Good story/Op Ed in Al's Jizzum this very day on how much MORE militaristic the US has become with our Nobel peace prize winning dude steering the force projection ship (which probably needs to be renamed the USS Neocon). When I was catching shit from this board by saying years earlier that I didn't see any significant difference between Republican and democrat, this is the poster for that thought.

     

    Here's the link and the entire story. If you like it send the Emir a personal thank yew: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/06/2012625125236369213.html

     

    "New York, NY - "In operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, a failure to recognise, acknowledge and accurately define the operational environment led to a mismatch between forces, capabilities, missions and goals," reads a new draft report by the Pentagon's Joint Staff.

     

    In Decade of War: Enduring Lessons from the Past Decade of Operations, the authors admit to failures in Iraq and Afghanistan and lay out a series of lessons for the future, including more effective efforts aimed at winning hearts and minds, integrating regular troops and special operations forces, coordination with other government agencies, coalition operations, partnering with the forces of host-nations and paying greater attention to the use of proxy forces.

     

    The report has created a buzz in military circles and has been hailed as offering new insights, but the move away from ruinous large-scale land wars to a new hybrid method of war-fighting, call it "the Obama formula", has been evident for some time. For the past several years, the US has increasingly turned to special operations forces working not only on their own but also training or fighting beside allied militaries (if not outright proxy armies) in hot spots around the world.

     

     

    Fault Lines - Robot wars

     

    And along with those special ops advisers, trainers and commandos, ever more resources are flowing into the militarisation of spying and intelligence, the use of drone aircraft is proliferating, cyber-warfare is on the rise, as are joint operations between the military and increasingly militarised "civilian" government agencies.

     

    The Obama administration has, in fact, doubled down again and again on this new way of war - from Africa to the Greater Middle East to South America - but what looks today like a recipe for easy power projection that will further US interests on the cheap could soon prove to be an unmitigated disaster - one that likely won't be apparent until it's too late.

     

    The US war in Pakistan is a veritable poster-child for the Obama formula. Beginning as a limited drone assassination campaign backed by limited cross-border commando raids under the Bush administration, US operations in Pakistan have expanded into something close to a full-scale robotic air war, complemented by cross-border helicopter attacks, CIA-funded "kill teams" of Afghan proxy forces, as well as boots-on-the-ground missions by elite special operations forces, including the SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

     

    Accelerating under Obama

     

    The CIA has conducted clandestine intelligence and surveillance missions in Pakistan, too, though its future role may be less important, thanks to Pentagon mission-creep. In April, Secretary of Defence Leon Panetta announced the creation of a new CIA-like espionage agency within the Pentagon named the Defence Clandestine Service (DCS). According to the Washington Post, its aim is to expand "the military's espionage efforts beyond war zones". Pakistan is a probable candidate for future deployment of DCS operatives. Africa is also likely to see an influx of Pentagon spies in the coming years.

     

    Interestingly, Decade of War devotes space to decrying the use of proxies by adversaries and suggests that the Pentagon team with State Department diplomats and US spies to break up sponsor/proxy relationships and disrupt financing networks. As the report puts it, the military must "oppose proxies and surrogates through a global campaign that combines direct action and law enforcement with indirect approaches that address the factors that fuel support for terrorism". Proxies are, however, also a linchpin of the Obama administration's formula - most especially when it comes to operations in Africa.

     

    "The Obama administration has been ramping up operations south of the border using [drones]."

     

    Under President Obama, operations on the continent have accelerated far beyond the limited interventions of the Bush years:

     

    Last year’s war in Libya;

    A regional drone campaign with missions run out of airports and bases in Djibouti, Ethiopia and the Indian Ocean archipelago nation of Seychelles;

    A flotilla of 30 ships in that ocean supporting regional operations; a multi-pronged military and CIA campaign against militants in Somalia, including intelligence operations, training for Somali agents, secret prisons, helicopter attacks, and US commando raids;

    Amassive influx of cash for counterterrorism operations across East Africa;

    A possible old-fashioned air war, carried out on the sly in the region using manned aircraft;

    Tens of millions of dollars in arms for allied mercenaries and African troops;

    A special ops expeditionary force (bolstered by State Department experts) dispatched to help capture or kill Lord’s Resistance Army leader Joseph Kony and his senior commanders, operating in Uganda, South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and the Central African Republic (where US Special Forces now have a new base);

    And a mission by elite Force Recon Marines from the Special Purpose Marine Air Ground Task Force 12 (SPMAGTF-12) to train soldiers from the Uganda People's Defense Force, which supplies the majority of troops to the African Union Mission in Somalia only begins to scratch the surface of Washington’s fast-expanding activities in the region

     

    The US is also ramping up missions in its near abroad. Since its founding, the United States has often intervened throughout the Caribbean and Latin America. During the Bush years, with some notable exceptions, Washington’s interest in America's "backyard" took a backseat to wars farther from home. Recently, however, the Obama administration has been ramping up operations south of the border using its new formula. This has meant Pentagon drone missions deep inside Mexico to aid that country's battle against the drug cartels, while CIA agents and civilian operatives from the Department of Defence were dispatched to Mexican military bases to take part in the country's drug war.

     

    In 2012, the Pentagon has also ramped up its anti-drug operations in Honduras. US forces have taken part in joint operations with Honduran troops as part of a training mission dubbed Beyond the Horizon 2012; Green Berets have been assisting Honduran Special Operations forces in anti-smuggling operations; and a Drug Enforcement Administration Foreign-deployed Advisory Support Team, originally created to disrupt the poppy trade in Afghanistan, has joined forces with Honduras' Tactical Response Team, that country's most elite counternarcotics unit. A glimpse of these operations made the news recently when DEA agents, flying in a US helicopter, were involved in an aerial attack on civilians that killed two men and two pregnant women in the remote Mosquito Coast region.

     

    No withdrawal from the Middle East

     

    Despite the end of the Iraq and Libyan wars, a coming drawdown of forces in Afghanistan and copious public announcements about its national security pivot toward Asia, Washington is by no means withdrawing from the Greater Middle East. In addition to continuing operations in Afghanistan, the US has consistently been at work training allied troops, building up military bases and brokering weapons sales and arms transfers to despots in the region from Bahrain to Yemen.

     

    "[Cyberwar efforts] were begun under the Bush administrtion but significantly accelerated under the current presdent, who became the first American commander-in-chief to order sustained cyberattacks designed to cripple another country's infrastructure."

     

    In fact, Yemen, like its neighbour, Somalia, across the Gulf of Aden, has become a laboratory for Obama’s wars. There, the US is carrying out its signature new brand of warfare with "black ops" troops like the SEALs and the Army's Delta Force probably conducting kill/capture missions, while "white" forces like the Green Berets and Rangers are training indigenous troops, and robot planes hunt and kill members of al-Qaeda and its affiliates, possibly assisted by an even more secret contingent of manned aircraft.

     

    The Middle East has also become the somewhat unlikely poster-region for another emerging facet of the Obama doctrine: cyberwar efforts. The recently revealed "Olympic Games", a program of sophisticated attacks on computers in Iran's nuclear enrichment facilities engineered and unleashed by the National Security Agency (NSA) and Unit 8200, Israel's equivalent of the NSA. As with other facets of the new way of war, these efforts were begun under the Bush administration but significantly accelerated under the current president, who became the first US commander-in-chief to order sustained cyberattacks designed to cripple another country's infrastructure.

     

    Even the State Department has, albeit modestly, become involved in cyberwar efforts. In a category-blurring speaking engagement, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave a speech at the recent Special Operations Forces Industry Conference in Florida where she talked up her department's eagerness to join in the new American way of war. "We need Special Operations Forces who are as comfortable drinking tea with tribal leaders as raiding a terrorist compound,"' she told the crowd. "We also need diplomats and development experts who are up to the job of being your partners."

    From the perspective of one neighbourhood in Herat

     

    Across the globe

     

    Clinton then took the opportunity to tout her agency's online efforts, aimed at websites used by al-Qaeda's affiliate in Yemen. When al-Qaeda recruitment messages appeared on the latter, she said, "our team plastered the same sites with altered versions... that showed the toll al-Qaeda attacks have taken on the Yemeni people". She further noted that this information-warfare mission was carried out by experts at State's Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications with assistance, not surprisingly, from the military and the US Intelligence Community.

     

    Such efforts are exactly the type of integration the Pentagon touts in "Decade of War": "Initially in Iraq and Afghanistan, interagency unity of effort was a resounding failure," says the report. To avoid this in the future, the report calls upon the Pentagon to regularly seed its people into other agencies and also develop policies for "greater inclusion of interagency involvement in planning, training and execution to increase interagency contributions, including expansion of their expeditionary capabilities".

     

    Across the globe from Central and South America to Africa, the Middle East to Asia, the Obama administration is working out its formula for a new American way of war. In its pursuit, the Pentagon and its increasingly militarised government partners are drawing on everything from classic precepts of colonial warfare to the latest technologies.

    In-depth coverage of the regional political crisis

     

    The United States is an imperial power chastened by more than ten years of failed, heavy-footprint wars. It is hobbled by a hollowing-out economy, and inundated with hundreds of thousands of recent veterans - a staggering 45 per cent of the troops who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq - suffering from service-related disabilities who will require ever more expensive care. No wonder the current combination of special ops, drones, spy games, civilian soldiers, cyberwarfare and proxy fighters sounds like a safer, saner brand of war-fighting. At first blush, it may even look like a panacea for the national security ills of the US. In reality, it may be anything but.

     

    After years spent fighting light-footprint shadow wars in Pakistan and Yemen, both nations are, as the New York Times recently noted - "arguably less stable and more hostile to the United States than when Mr Obama became president". Not only have the initial test cases yielded failure, but this new way of war holds great potential for unforeseen entanglements and serial blowback. Starting or fanning brushfire wars on several continents could lead to raging wildfires that spread unpredictably and prove difficult, if not impossible, to quench.

     

    Decade of War: Enduring Lessons from the Past Decade of Operations asserts that "operations during the first half of the [past] decade were often marked by numerous missteps and challenges, while those in the second half featured successful adaptation to overcome these challenges." Such statements and an implicit certainty that the Pentagon can find the right formula for successful wars suggest that the lessons have actually been less than enduring - and a similar report with similar conclusions may, indeed, be in preparation a decade from now. "

  15. what, no pics of dead kids???

     

    I thought that a pic of you with your head up your ass as usual would be enough Rob. I'll work on my skillz.

     

     

     

    I'd hit that after only one drink.

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    Probably a good enough reason to stop drinking immediately. LOL! Thanks for the links Adam. I'll give you a head sup and suggest that your blog had too many words. Rob up there can get about 3 or 4 words in a row read before he gets confused and his mind makes the rest of the shit up. :lmao: You see this repeatedly around here on the various threads. Clearly we're not your target audience although I'd bet Trash could comment on yer stuff as he act's smart. Occasionally.

     

    Anyhow, take care all, you too rob! Vios con dios Amigos!!

  16. burchey, I like you - although you may have too much common sense for us. So here's a heads up: don't copy peoples family members pictures into your posts and make fun of them. It's not right. Belittle fellow posters all day long 10,000 ways to Sunday verbally or via pics copied off the net, but leave their personal shots out of the ridicule.

     

    Carry on.

     

     

    Examples of ways to insult others.

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