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I was thinking everything except the last sentence lecture on being irresponsible when I got to your post JH. Thanks for saying it for me. I sent all of mine back to be tested regardless of date, and the green alien I sent in didn't come back, but another did in it's place. Furthermore and most importantly, I do not know what they did by way of testing them, it could have been tying a large violent dog on a leash anchored to an Alien and walking a cat by the dogs nose for all I know, and nothing was ever said about the single Alien replaced. I am torn and still use the cams, hoping that CCH either A) Mfg'd it correctly and B) Tested it correctly. Sadly, I have no solid assurance of either though. PS, given the failure of stamped "tensile tested" Aliens, I'm leaning towards some kind of Rube Goldberg dog/cat testing setup....poor Frikkan cat. BTW VPOVancouver, the guy who had the groundfall on Soulders Crack when he fell onto a tested Yellow Alien which then failed was also running 100% Aliens holding....until it didn't....something for you to think about. I've not broken one yet either, but it doesn't change a thing does it? Everyone forget Backcountry dogs brand new one pulling apart with a tug? Round 2 (this is round 6 remember, right here) http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/547978/site_id/1#import This one was particularly bad, of course, since it didn't happen to you I guess it's fine for you to keep climbing on your aliens:-) http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=1585733;page=1;mh=-1;;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC Here's the pic of that "Tested" Alien that resulted in a 75 foot groundfall/near fatality. BTW, I'll still be climbing on mine except when I'm out with some of you of course, I'll try not to fall. I will say that both my main partner and I have a full rack of Mastercams, and the Aliens are used to supplement them.

MINX S BACK!!!! Turn around and Chestbest!

Here's a bone for Reid though so he doesn't pay the $139.: $125 at REI. New England Apex 10.5mm x 60m Dry Rope - Special Buy Specs Specification Description Weight 70 grams per meter Dimensions 10.5mm x 60m Impact force 9.4 kilonewtons UIAA falls 5 http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/788345

Hey now, I just got back from Yosemite, I need a day or 2 month or 2 to get it back together.

That's just how you roll I suppose. Perhaps this will help you figure yourself out. I'll see your hypocrite and raise you a hypocrite.

Do you think attacking him helps us understand your view? Hypocrite.

9 times out of 10, for me it's the rope I am tied into. Why carry extra (and usually weaker) gear? BTW, OP, best way to get it figured out is grab a mentor, an experienced person, and shadow them like you work for the gobment. Alternately and as good, take a class. Look into the Mountaineers, local college and/or the Mazamas (location dependant)

No way Kenny, Geoff and Mike were out on granite, and therin is the meat of a very tasty sandwich. Good on them for getting on it! Here's a toast for Benny and partner on Zodiac (Ben's 2nd time!) who just weathered a major friggan storm and continues chugging like "the little engine that could". another one to wash down the first one as one is never enough ya know. check your PMs kenny Here's more Pron, Adam at Knob Hill in the valley. Edited to add a pic of a classic valley crack as this thread needed it.....

Bout Friggan time!!! Doing the right thing for the country is never a bad thing. I was flipping though some radio channels yesterday and caught some right winger suggesting that Obama is full of patoutie for this act. I say bullshit. This should have been done a long time ago if nothing else so we can stop kissing Arab (and now Hugo Chavez) asses. save some of that cheap stuff for our children and the next war. Obama nailed this one. http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=78810

Doesn't that translate to "Small Penis" Hugh? Good luck buddy. ____________________________________________________________ hey: Am I the only one that doesn't care if I can or cannot carry in a National Park? Why should we care? How about on an airplane? Anyway, I'm with Jim on this, carrying guns in the wilderness is generally lame. If you head to the deep woods/great white north/Grizzly country AND you are menstruating, I won't argue if you slide your .45 or your sleek, sexy new X-6 into that toolbelt. Who wants to be slapshotted by a Polor Bear after all? So get one of these: And one of these: They'll see you coming and hide for sure: ...... NOT

You voted Libertarian I bet.

Ben leading the Nipple pitch 5/19/09, photo Tom Evans.

Ujahn just finished a "Trapeze" class. There were 15 pretty girls and 2 dudes. Said it was a great workout and fun as well.

I had called jim and said I'm ready to help any time, so keep me in the loop someplace:-)

OK. From Tom Evans site from yesterday Andrew (Isaac sent this around, I'm just passing it along, there's a story on the link as well) http://www.elcapreport.com/content/elcap-report-51809 Ben in red, pics by tom Evans. Distance shot - Ben by White Circle.

How soon do they forget the rest of the world. Pol Pot. Mao. Stalin. Hitler. Did we also conveniently and easily forget Democrats Harry Truman and FDR? Lets add a few million more innocents slaughtered here and there in Dresden, Hiroshoma, Nagasaki, the Firebombing of Toykyo, etc etc. ps, JB: Porter make joke Komrad:-) Joke!

It amazes me how some of you guys read all of your bias and opinions into others words. Words that lack the meanings you attribute to them.

Sorry Sobo, I just couldn't bring myself to make the sun small, it just didn't seem right. Mellow Yellow - Donovan

Couple of close ups of that dot, Atlantis working on the Hubble it is said. Here's the shuttle heading off.

Link Check the dot at 8 oclock

Alright alright...get yer asses back to work now..... psst, got any more? LOL! That's some great stuff. Bet they could outclimb most of us while wearing the high heels.

Geoff and Mike with every damn thing ever needed anywhere. except a portaledge of course:-)

Sorry to see that Mtnguide, and good to see you voluntarily CHOOSE your health, but should your friends have been rounded up and jailed for this personal choice then? I don't have an answer to any of it except that locking up honest and honorable people and/or making them chose to break the law isn't working very well on many levels. I agree that some people shouldn't be smoking out, getting blotto, and operating a vehicle for sure (ME! for instance). However: we have strong laws for driving while impaired already.

I thought Jayb's question (rephrased as a statement)was a good one. I think you read a lot more into it Matt. I can't say I understand the answer myself.....it's not just about politics per se. Speaking of realpolitik shit: is anyone still pissed that Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon for clearly lying and obstructing justice before Nixon could even be charged?

Holy Shite! Did the literary bar just get raised again? LOL! GREAT SHIT! PS they don't deduct for spell checking.:-)