billcoe

LOL! No, been with the same woman for 30 years now, but my little brother, who's over 50 now, is divorced and I'm sure that he has had it occur:-) BTW, if this helps: the title says "Hottie on Everest, not Hottie on Sobo" although I can see how you might have misunderstood it sir! If you do get one of these hotties out, a quick word of advice - don't say anything about grey pubic hair. It's not sexy.

No need to jump to conclusions. Suss = looked into, studied and examined. I find it curious that this tiny place, which has been continuously having fairly heavy climber traffic, has apparently had a successful brood hatched. Doesn't that prick your curiosity meter? It does mine. It could be that the Peregrines are a substantial distance away, or that they are on a 5.12 climb that no one climbs, or this or that: it could be a lot of things we don't know yet. Or it could just be that as many climbers have been noting for years, Peregrines really can tolerate a lot of climber/Peregrine interaction. Who can say until it's examined? I'm not telling you to do it. I'm not telling LCK to do it, I'm not even suggesting I'm doing it and Au Contrair, I'm not even complaining or whining. I just find it interesting and think this apparently successful close climber/Peregrine interaction, if it truly has been existing, should be studied further by someone. That's what I meant. So long.

Look, these young girls won't sleep with anyone their grandfathers age sir. Sorry to break you the newz.

Insert generic springtime paraphrasing here: Thus starts another Oregon thread......... Take care all. Bill

The thing needs to get sussed out some more as substantial amounts of people have been climbing there for the last year (not me, not once) and it didn't slow these Peregrines down or worry them from apparently laying and raising a successful brood.

Probably a quick call to Tonia Burns, the Natural Resources Coordinator for Clackamas County Parks will answer your questions Joseph. I think she's keeping her finger on this pulse. Office- (503)742-4357 or email address is tburns@co.clackamas.or.us She seemed pretty approachable. Good luck.

I'd say that your internet must be broken yet here you are. Lead story on the newz all AM http://www.yahoo.com/ I don't see anyone on this thread blaming Obama, in fact, the Secretary of State is over in that region right now. Hopefully keeping our allies, and China, appraised - and learning what, if anything, the US can expect from them. *story* "SEOUL, South Korea – South Korea's president slashed trade to impoverished North Korea and pledged to haul Pyongyang before the U.N. Security Council, vowing Monday to make Pyongyang "pay a price" for a torpedo attack that killed 46 sailors. President Barack Obama offered his full support for South Korea's moves, and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton conferred with China — a veto-wielding permanent seat holder on the Security Council — on the next step in what she called a "highly precarious" security situation. The March 26 sinking of the Cheonan in the Yellow Sea off the west coast was one of South Korea's worst military disaster since the 1950-53 Korean War. A torpedo fired from a North Korean submarine tore the ship in two, an international team of investigators concluded last week. President Lee Myung-bak called the attack the latest in a series of provocations from the North, and aimed to strike Pyongyang financially by cutting trade with the country in desperate need for hard currency. South Korea has been North Korea's No. 2 trading partner, behind China, and the measure will cost Pyongyang about $200 million a year, said Lim Eul-chul, a North Korea expert at South Korea's Kyungnam University. The move deals a direct and painful blow to the cash-hungry North, the state-run Korea Development Institute said. "We have always tolerated North Korea's brutality, time and again. We did so because we have always had a genuine longing for peace on the Korean peninsula," he said in a solemn speech to the nation from the halls of the country's War Memorial. "But now things are different. North Korea will pay a price corresponding to its provocative acts," he said, calling it a "critical turning point" on the tense Korean peninsula, still technically in a state of war because the fighting ended in a truce, not a peace treaty. Clinton said North Korea's neighbors — including Pyongyang ally China, which has refrained from criticizing its neighbor — understand the seriousness of the matter. She would not say whether such action would include new international sanctions against the North. "We are working hard to avoid an escalation of belligerence and provocation," Clinton said. The U.N. secretary-general called the evidence "overwhelming and deeply troubling" that North Korea was responsible for a torpedo attack that killed 46 South Korean sailors. Ban Ki-moon told a news conference Monday that he fully shared the widespread condemnation of the attack after hearing the evidence laid out by South Korea's international team of investigators. Ban said he expects "measures appropriate to the gravity of the situation" will be taken by the U.N. Security Council once South Korea brings the matter to the 15-nation council's attention. Pyongyang disputes the maritime border unilaterally drawn by U.N. forces at the close of the war, and the Koreas have fought three bloody skirmishes there, most recently in November. The Cheonan went down not far from the Koreas' sea border. Defense Minister Kim Tae-young said the U.S. and South Korea would hold anti-submarine military exercises in the waters. The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea, a major sore point for the North. In Washington, an Obama administration official said military commanders were coordinating closely with South Korea on how the U.S. can help if North Korea continues its threatening behavior. The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the discussions are continuing, said that would likely include U.S. assistance with military training exercises. South Korea's military will also resume blaring anti-North Korean propaganda back over the border — a sensitive practice suspended in 2004 amid warming ties, officials said. Lee called the sinking of the Cheonan yet another example of "incessant" provocation by communist North Korea, accused in a 1983 attack on a presidential delegation that killed 21 people and the bombing of an airliner in 1987 that claimed 115 lives. North Korea routinely denies involvement in the attacks, and has steadfastly denied responsibility for the Cheonan sinking. Naval spokesman Col. Pak In Ho warned last week in comments to broadcaster APTN that any move to retaliate or punish Pyongyang would draw "all-out war." Pyongyang regularly issues belligerent warnings of war if provoked by the South or the U.S. On Monday, the powerful National Defense Commission criticized Lee's speech as a "clumsy farce," according to the official Korean Central News Agency. "This is an open breach of the inter-Korean military agreement, a grave military provocation and a serious incident driving the inter-Korean relations to the worst phase," a news anchor said on North Korean state TV. One 23-year-old university student in Seoul said she feared war. "I'm genuinely scared that this will escalate into a full-on war," Do Yoon-hee said as she watched a replay of the president's address on her cell phone. "I don't feel that these countermeasures keep us safer." Businessman Park Joo-shin, however, doubted fighting would break out again on the Korean peninsula. "An all-out war would be suicidal for Pyongyang," he said. The truce prohibits South Korea from waging a unilateral military attack, so Seoul sought Friday to strike at Pyongyang's faltering economy. Seoul carried out $1.68 billion in trade with North Korea in 2009, about 33 percent of Pyongyang's total trade, according to the Korea Trade-Investment Promotion Agency. China is North Korea's biggest trading partner, with commerce totaling $2.68 billion last year — about 53 percent of the North's total, KOTRA said. Imports of sand and other goods will be halted, and North Korean cargo ships will be denied permission to pass through South Korean waters, Unification Minister Hyun In-taek said. The biggest source of trade — a joint factory park in the North Korean border town of Kaesong where some 110 South Korean firms employ about 42,000 North Koreans — will remain open, Hyun said. The suspension of imports will deal a "direct blow" to North Korea, the state-run Korea Development Institute said. Lim predicted, however, that the North would make up the loss by finding Chinese partners. " Think of it as a process. One that is in play but not the top of the heap in terms of concern.

Hope you get well soon Graham!

Sick stuff Steve. Very sick....

One of the biggest benefits I can see of attacking North Korea would be that we could really get this clock whizzing. http://costofwar.com/

Wow!

The Obama admin could teach the Bush team a thing of 2 about underhanded back room machinations. This stuff is amazingly complex and interesting. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9FREE2G0&show_article=1 The key thing to remember when reading the words below is this: the Iranian Revolutionary Guard are in Russia training AT THIS VERY MOMENT, on the new S-300's. Who wants to bet that the delivery will be pledged sometime after the new US bunker busters are online and delivered in July? Hmmmm, wonder what the Iranians are thinking right now? Hmmmm. "WASHINGTON (AP) - The Obama administration on Friday removed sanctions against three Russian organizations the U.S. had previously accused of assisting Iran's effort to develop nuclear weapons. Penalties against a fourth Russian entity previously accused of illicit arms sales to Syria also were lifted. The timing of the decisions, published in Friday's Federal Register but not otherwise announced by the State Department, suggested the possibility of a link to U.S. efforts to win Russian support for a new U.N. Security Council resolution expanding sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program. ... (blah blah) .....Russia signed a 2007 contract to sell the powerful S-300 air defense missiles to Tehran but so far has not delivered any. No reason has been given for the delay, but Israel and the United States strongly objected to Iran obtaining the long-range missiles, which would significantly boost the country's air defense capability. " Hans Brix my ass.

OMG! I about spit my wine out onto the keyboard. Holy crap that's funny Kenny! The real good news is that we are starting to get hot and cold running Falcons about here. No joke, I see more Peregrines than Red tail hawks any more. Of course, where I plan on spending my summer has none, but I'll probably have a California Condor closure pounded up my ass soon enough instead. None yet, knock on wood.

Bone, good newz and bad newz: Good newz: they found your birds! Bad newz: They're at Madrone so they closed it before they opened it. This has been a Peregrine hotline update, part of the USFPUAS (United States Federal Peregrine Update Alert System) reporting system.

I called Tonyas office and she has confirmed that it is not a joke and it's been canceled.

http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/959551/Madrone_Wall_cancelled#Post959551 Cancelled for sure. Falcons it's alleged.

What the heck? Rec'd via email, could be a joke, but REI is the return address. I was suppose to have been removed as a volunteer for the event but appear to still on the email list. REI hasn't updated the event on their site yet. "Volunteers- Due to unforeseen circumstances Clackamas County Parks (CCP) has to cancel the Madrone Wall trail building event scheduled for May 23, 2010. As CCP was preparing for this event staff observed and determined that Peregrine Falcons are nesting at the site. We have since consulted with the US and Oregon Departments of Fish and Wildlife and the Audubon Society of Portland to verify and seek management recommendation. They have all recommended that we cancel this event in order to avoid potential nest failure while we collect additional information. This species is highly protective of nest sites and sensitive to disturbances. While some pairs breed in areas of more disturbance, such as bridges, each breeding pair has its own level of tolerance to disturbances. Our observations at this point have concluded that this breeding pair is highly sensitive to very small disturbances. Under federal statue, CCP is obligated to monitor and protect this site. While disruptive of our event, CCP is ready to partner with the USFWS, ODFW and other groups to participate in the conservation of this species. CCP??s is sorry for the late cancellation notification. We are committed to updating the public as we gather additional information. In addition, we are very hopeful that everyone in the community will continue to respect the standing site closure. Sincerely- Tonia Burns Natural Resources Coordinator Clackamas County Parks Office- (503)742-4357 tburns@co.clackamas.or.us"

Well, speaking for myself, I'd be into taking up a collection for a travel fund to ensure they could all get over and go proselytize in North Korea so they'll be in place before you drop the big one over there.

You don't have to, true, but yet you do. Over and over and over. That's why it's funny and I generally try and avoid you these days. Ta ta!

I think they have a key......

Thanks for the heads up JH. I always enjoyed Erik Plunkets easy going manner, the way he would ask for input and actually listen, and his operational savvy. There's a reason he got promoted: hope he has a nice job that makes him happy and that the new guy works out as well and loves the place as we do.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=140446 "According to the official web site of the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) — an independent Baptist church and hate group known for its hatred of homosexuals and its protest activities (which include picketing funerals) — WBC is planning on picketing Ronnie James Dio's public memorial service on Sunday, May 30 at 2:00 p.m. at The Hall Of Liberty located at Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills, 6300 Forest Lawn Drive, Los Angeles, California. What will presumably one of WBC's standard "peaceful sidewalk demonstrations" is meant to "remind you who worship that old Serpent, Satan, that your time is very short," according to a post on the "Upcoming Picket Schedule" page of the web site. The post continues, "You know 67 year old, Satan-worshiping (or at least one of their enablers) Ronnie James Dio (of showing his devil horns to the world each time he goes in public) BLACK SABBATH fame is dead, right? We'll be there! Just because the chances of any of God's elect being amongst this group of heavy metal sycophants is slim to none does not mean they should not get some good words.""

Regressive, you voted for Kim Jong Il and the workers paradise party like jb, thinking he was against the big corporations....admit it.....

WTF? ....that's the Lesbian hand signal....?

ha! done saw you skeedaddle last fall in The Great Goddamn Damp! reckon the siren song of drier rock in the dalles was just too strong? Jeff and I were out that way getting rained on ready to pack up and book out when Rick, Rhonda and Plaidman showed up. I think the rain attracted him. We got rejuvenated with the new crew and wound up out there till near dark. Wasn't raining hard, just misting all day with a few raindrops scattered here and there.