Mr._Natural

BURNNNNN, yesterday I had the unique experience of sorting through and taking my pick from 2500! vintage LP's

Damn it matt, just when I thought we were done... Neither of us could remember (it was 7 years ago) leaving the obvious gully.

it wasn't discussed although the official spew sprayshaw fan club has now been established. join now!

For those that care... Over beers Bart, Matt, Mike and I discussed the whole Spindrift thing... Bart apparently issued the now infamous "correction" because to the best of his recollection, when we topped out we were very close to the westermost highpoint. If this were true than we could not have done the super prominant coulior which terminates close to the low point between the summit and the hight point to the west. However, after discussing recent ascents it is very clear that everyone has climbed the same line, the obvious one, not the verticle bushwack to the right.

except the correction, in my opinion is not correct. Matt and I are having beers with Bart sometime in the near future and will figure it out.

ok my language was too strong, I myself would not downgrade a pitch that I can't lead clean, thats just me.

I indicated that the spray is entertaining, not that it pisses me off. To me hanging/resting on screws is dogging, you disagree? perhaps I have no right to comment however as I didn't lead the pitch. I know I am wasting my breath by sayingthat the conditions we had were much thinner and basically forced us to take a different line that later parties. I guess it is my fault for not breaking out the camara. The over-verticle bludge is visible in mikes pic but there is no way to prove we had to climb it so fuck it. Your partner was very forthright about challenging Barts description of the difficulties. There was no "conditions disclaimer" in his language.

necro said: "IV+ WI5 5.9 Mixed according to Mason et al's draft guidebook" yeah, there was plenty of snow covered choss esp on the 2nd step. The crux pitch was thinner than later ascents (judging from pics I have seen) but still swinging, not hooking edges. We were forced to climb the buldge directly, cause thats where the ice was. I find the amount of spray that this route generates is amazing. My favorite was the guys that reported the "Spindrift 2nd Ascent" fully admitting to dogging the shit out of the crux, then suggesting it should be downrated. I keep trying to stay away for all of these petty debates, but you guys make it way too hard. Matt and Mike

it was givin IV+ WI5, what is this V shit all about? IV+ means a really long day for the average alpinist, those who are slower than average or who fuck up somewhere on route can expect to spend the night. sounds about right for the conditions I found.

sounds like he is in agreement w/bart in terms of rating

So did you end up coming down the NW face? Where did you bivi? What went wrong/took too long, just the cornice? How big was it? Just wondering. Glad you 2 are okay.

WE'LL SELL YOU THE WHOLE SEAT....BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE.....

index=sandbag valley=honest squish=giveaway of course there are exceptions...

-10, if you need proof i can e-mail a screen shot

4 under.

naw, I just climbed there a few times during the year i spent in breck. i don't remember any names. fun stuff though, specially the cracks.

s. platte?

are you serious? between sehome and larabee? the arboretum tunnel?

Bill, c'mon give it up. Hint or deets pleeze. Been back to that crack yet?

ok, my last guess would in the proximity of silver beach. its not the spray paint magnet ajacent to i5 north, that aint in bham, but you know better than that. poor spelling can be attributeed to makers mark.

i don't think the rez is good enough to actually see it, I was just wondering if i was in the right neightborhood.

yeah, Imax. aquarium or seattle center. show her that trolls really do live under bridges.

find the flood control structure/motocross jump for xtra points.

hey bill are you talkin about that erratic located somewhere in this image? ftp://ftp.cob.org/plan/2002airphotos/370306swlr.jpg

whatever, a dead kid is a dead kid, even if he was stupid.