RuMR

SIG HEIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where the hell is my damn Mickey's brewski?? W T F...what sheep fokker took it?? it was right here a minute ago...

these acts are more akin to the tradclimber/sheeplover folk than the sport climber... hell, beer(trad climber's favortie beverage, no?) elevates one to an unacceptable BMI with the consequence of falling off of one's latest 5.8 c/d climb...duh...

DAMMIT!!! THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE GENEPOOL!!!! STAY ON TARGET STAY ON TARGET... SPECIES ELIMINATION IS IN PROCESS...COUNTING 3 2 1 ...

Poor analogy. Unlike ideas, bolts have a physical reality and there are some of us who think that if they are to be used, they should be rare, especially on public property where not everyone appreciates the current unrestrained ability of anyone to permanently alter OUR rock environment for their personal entertainment. Dammit...thread drift...no bolt discussions allowed in MY thread...this thread has to do with hooking up superior specimens to bolster the homo sapiens species' weakening genetic pool. go start your own thread to talk about some stupid bolts...sheesh

that guy sums up what is wrong with America these days...

KirkW...please give me some credit. I didn't rip ANYONE in the actual thread and rather went to spray to make this post. Also, i merely regurgitated what Buckaroo said...that tradclimbers make superior mating stock.

Is that the fellow with the daughter who always goes " BOOO BOOO BOOOOO BOOOO "????

that's sounds like a "quick fire" solution...

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pin bolt what's the diff?

so chicks are more attracted to tradsters than bolt clippers? interesting argument from the planet known as Buckaroo. some people climb because it is fun, others because they think it makes the opposite sex perceive them as superior breeding stock (i.e., "a stud"). if i've understood you, your argument is that the bolt on city park pitch 2 needs to be removed in order to ensure that human evolution doesn't stagnate -- is that about right? that's what i was thinking about his post...i thought "now i have heard every argument against and for trad climbing or bolted sport routes...but golly gee willikers, never heard that line of reasoning before..."

Hey. Buckaroo! You've made many interesting points but I have to disagree with your latter statement. One of the key environmental points of trad climbing is to place your own gear and remove it, thus leaving the rock in a decent state for the next climber, for generations to come. Sport-climbing is the antithesis of this and leaves a permanent deteriorating metallic trail for all to follow wherever one pleases. You want to dumb down the second pitch of City Park even more?....add a few more bolts and make it a sport-like climb...check out "Numbah Ten" just a few dozen yards away. And "RuMR: Nice to see that you continue to honor me with one of my favorite quotes." anytime Dwayner...

Why? Because you wouldn't be able to deal with it if it wasn't? only as far as you assume. I'm going to argue that it is very vital. Of all my activities climbing is the greatest challenge and keeps me mentally and physically fit more than any other. Here's an example. When Steve House and Marko Prezelj did the 3rd ascent (in 30 years) of North Twin, there was a climbing groupie that said she wanted to have Marko's baby. What do you think is going on there? What do you propose? That we all lie on the couch with no challenges? Where do you think the species is headed in that case? Or hey let's all become sport climbers, our bodies will be fit but we will have fat ass pasty white McDonalds minds, because we have had no mental threat, no mental challenge. Everything should be absolutely safe. We should never have to observe and evaluate a situation for danger. Dumb everything down, there will be no need for intelligent decision making. Also the comparison of sport to trad from a resources standpoint is not all that different. Sport climbers use draws with aluminum beaners and Gri-Gri's which are heavy aluminum devices. I was talking more the impact on the rock faces. I will grant you trad is probably no better from an overall viewpoint. I can't believe this!! ! Holy crap you are on another planet...

To be fair to Doug he did say that he's fallen on those nuts...

Listen all...DougT's brass balls are more than sufficient to protect those couple of moves...

Good point Kevin...

gotta love index..."Maam, i'd like another helping of humble pie, please"

Anyone try these yet?

got one from Patrick! THanks all...

Try this Sobo...A chunk of blue cheese with Bacon in the half shell on the barbie!

HELP!