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kicked off "goatfokkers" again??

...oh, i left out the word "bitch"...ya dumb bitch...

...and, now that you are here, it will soon morph into 300 pages of "ego blah blah blah" spray... Instead of your 200 pages? Apples and oranges baby! more like my 20 to your 300...apples to watermelons is a better analogy....and then, if you got your girlfriend, pink, it'd be my sack of apples to your friggin' farmfield of melonheads...

Your response should have been....."well you better come over here and start using the rope or I am going to pull it" HA! Like i said, i didn't want to cause a ruckus in front of two 7 year old boys...you know, i'm all demure and crap...

she'll pay you for that one, and drop pink as a bonus...

i dunno...they got a lot of 'tards to draw from...

my point exactly...the reason i just didn't step in, is that my children were with me and i didn't want to cause a ruckus...i asked politely and was told "We are using this route and will be here until 4:30"...

...and, now that you are here, it will soon morph into 300 pages of "ego blah blah blah" spray...

try taking your boy and a friend of his to barney's rubble when they are there or some place along those lines...

Just out of curiousity, how do you know that event did not happen? if it did happen then LAME... if it didn't happen, its in many ways worse than lame...just weak all around... even if it was a private joke between the two of them, to put it into writing for all to see for all time is fuckin' lame... Imagine being the deceased's family and reading something like that?? Plus, she was a damn *official*...loser...loser loser... oh, and i'd call her a bitch too...

Peter...the difference is that, typically, in the scenario above, climbers would let a redpointer try a route or let their rope be used as a tr...i've had two cases where i was denied access to a route with mountaineers and the route was left standing for several hours...

...and my kids when they were younger...

I bring new climbers (1 at a time) out all of the time...

that's why i said move it out of the way...plus, i don't really give a shit if they have to relead it...they get to practice all of their dogma one more time...

arm each mountie with one large slung hex and blow the whistle...last one standing wins...helmets are on!...hammers are poor form... duhfuckin'duh Porter...how long you been around anyway...tool

The problem with this perspective is that by merely occupying so many routes, you place the burden on the other users to have to go and ask. Most people avoid conflict and I know I would rather just go elsewhere than have to enter a large group, not knowing who is running things and boldly make some request in front of a big group, only to be told that someone is climbing that. Taking up 5 routes is totally unacceptable. 3 should be max and you should rotate through those at that, ensuring they are free later. just move the fuckin' rope out of the way and start climbing if no one is on it...leavin' your rope there is lame...mountie or not... what are they gonna do???? Demand that you come down? bawahahahaha...

Very good read and quite inspirational...the guy is a legend...

I've been lookin' pretty hard at the Nikon and the Cannon...thanks!

dberdinka, it would behoove you to request a hilti catalog and read through the installation section and the design section...there are all sorts of factors that reduce the allowable capacities of the botlts...one that you mentioned was edge distance...while these values given in the catalogue are for competent concrete (3000-4000 psi, if i remember right), the trends are the same in rock...not the values, the trends... the other consideration about overtorquing is that torque, by its nature, induces shearing stress into the bolt. One component of a fall is shear, the other is tension from pullout action. The torque stress and the shear stress are additive, so while you broke your samples in pure torque, they would have failed at a lower, but still overtorqued, value had shear been applied to them as well...ie, the max/devinder example i mentioned earlier... shoot me a pm if you have anymore questions...

well, first pair delammed quickly (1 week), he refused to fix...2nd pair was a pair of futuras that i left a detailed written description to not remove the sole, only the plate and replace that (the shoe was designed to do this)and then had a verbal discussion to make sure he understood what i wanted done. Get the shoe back with the sole removed and the shoe destroyed. They would have lasted damn near forever if resoled the way LaSportiva designed them to be...i was so fuckin' pissed...

id dissagree... was not very impressed with my resole job done there. just my experience tho DO NOT GO TO PAGE...crap

Most of us agree. yepperz...shocker ain't it??

technically speaking, tool, guidebooks use trees, therefore they are aid...get with the program, dumbass...

its only on for everyone but Kevbonehead...he can't read yet, so obviously the guidebook beta is "out" for him... Then again, maybe his girlfriend, pink, can read it to him??

Believe it bitch. You do it all the time. i have to at least try to sound like an idiot...you, on the other hand,...well, you are a natural-born-idiot...