RuMR

wtf r u talking about trask? Care to fill me in?

Trask...doesn't posting this kind of crap get old?? You're the "dwayner" of idiocy...beatin' the same old dead horse... Sheesh...

yeah...and everyone's crazy but me!!!

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I think TRASK is a closet case...at the very least he's f'ing

If i thought the people would care for and love my kids, i wouldn't think twice about it. True comment about opinions...

you have no proof to the contrary...i can argue point to point w/ you... I maintain that if two parents, or one single parent, is devoted to the kid that is all that matters...not their orientation... And don't start that crap about relationships...1 in 2 conventional marriages go down and a good portion of those have kids in them...

or wouldn't... i am sure the ACLU was trying real hard to find thius type of evidence what about the pediatricians??

there's one reason... says nothing in there about the effects of a long term family unit does it? My guess is that the 21 month relationships won't be child rearing one... NON point

that's only an argument to legalize marriage...

is quite the telling quote... clearly demonstrates the logic used by these people to perpetuate their stances without really dealing with the issues... and yes i think the ACLU is biased... dont you Flip side of the coin to your statement is that they COULDN'T find any evidence in their studies... that was a two minute google search...you really want the statitistics go to the studies referenced...how many times do i have to say that? Why are you so opposed to it? Is it a personal feeling or do you have something concrete to base it on?

and another thing...i didn't say those articles had anything to do w/ statistics... My point in the second article was that American Acadamey of Pediatrics supports gay parenting as a viable family. But i suppose they are biased as well, huh? You probably know more about child rearing and well being than they do, don'tcha? Man, i'll need to call you for help w/ my kids...

and where's your counter evidence? Easy to pick something apart isn't it?? Why don't you find ONE article that isn't opinion and has studies to the contrary and post it? Bet you can't...

Nice SNIP fency...you left out the heading...it was Research Overview of Lesbian and Gay Parenting1 ...ie a summary of the findings...those are not opinions, they are the results of those particular studies that were referenced... Please note that i said "results" not fact. results are open to interpretation, but that's all you will get... I suggest you look at the referenced studies below your snip for the actual numbers. Many of those studies were preformed by acadamies and are published in leading journals that won't accept bs studies. There are numbers behind those statements...

you wish... you are as generic as all the countless other clowns on here that ont believe in anything, but bash anyone with any convictions... kitten was as non-confrontational as can be about it and still caught flack... you are no more unique than the kids shopping at abercrombie... your niche is just "fringe" and theirs is "mainstream" its all what group you belong too... i have yet to meet the individual that defies categorization... except cavie... whatever fence....yer right up there w/ falwell as far as categorization!!! why is that? because i question whether a child whill have derogatory consequences from having two gay parents? sorry brah... i haven't seen any of these dozens of studies that you speak of... everyone quotes studies to prove their point... but rarely are they ever cited... i am not denying them, just want joshk to show us the goods So Fence, where are all of your studies that show its wrong and causes problems for the child??? You're all talk so far and its based on your feelings...Do you know any children being raised by gay parents????? http://archive.aclu.org/issues/gay/parent.html or The American Academy of Pediatrics has come out in favor of gay adoption Where's all your backup other than how you personally feel?

whatever trask...nice avatar pic...

Pope...despite our disagreements on bolts (a very critical issue to society ) i'm w/ you on this one... OW's gang o' one is actually a gang period...

you wish... you are as generic as all the countless other clowns on here that ont believe in anything, but bash anyone with any convictions... kitten was as non-confrontational as can be about it and still caught flack... you are no more unique than the kids shopping at abercrombie... your niche is just "fringe" and theirs is "mainstream" its all what group you belong too... i have yet to meet the individual that defies categorization... except cavie... whatever fence....yer right up there w/ falwell as far as categorization!!!

Nope...never labeled you a hater...that would be e-rock... I think your point is that you disagree w/ the morality and you'll be damned if you are going to pay for benefits out of your pocket? is that right? My point is that if two people, regardless of orientation/race/etc., put the child/children first then they can be decent parents. Point in my book, probably only an opinion in yours...but to each their own...

Dwayner: always beating the dead horse. You and RUMR.....someday you will both "see the light". In the meantime, enjoy your sport-"climbing". dwayner, you don't know me or what i like to "climb", whether its sport or trad...so don't go down that road...i've tried to not rag you on what you "climb"...only when you post an obvious troll do i bite...

Caveman...ability to breed does not in and of itself mean anything regarding parenthood... retards, imbeciles, rapists, thugs and on and on can all reproduce... your argument has squat to do w/ raising a child...for that matter, many grandparents who are now infertile due to age raise many of the nations children...

hmmm...lots of things make it "tough" for a kid...i think that's called life... depriving a child of two caring parents tends to make it tough as well...