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Hey there, Roxanyone I'll actually be in the portland area, so probably the best dealio is to meet at smiff itself...grasslands saturday?

i did it years ago...

you should contact Mr.Radon ...he's into that shiznet... don't forget to hang yer laundry to dry b4 you leave...

jeezus--fucked up rappel 400 feet off the deck and LIVED!!! PUSH ME

I'm in...

and your poop prolly smells like roses too, huh? to each their own...

I consider climbing down to a rest or the ground still part of the first try...and its always been considered that way, in my memory...shoot, half of the reported onsights in literature involved downclimbing to rests or back to belay ledges... And, FYI, onsight used to mean a description of the style the route was climbed in! and it meant no rehersal and no prior info/beta...it was only when it was combined w/ the word "flash"...as in "onsight flashed", that it meant a no-fall first try ascent...in fact, there was a huge description of a route that scott franklin did where he reported climbing it onsight, the mags report that and implied a no falls ascent, to which he wrote a letter back stating that, while he had climbed the route "onsight" he had fallen twice...get yer facts straight Now, the term "onsight" has evolved much the same as the term redpoint has...onsight is now inclusive of a flash...

me and da family...

I don't recall ever having that as a definition (19-20 years or so)...you don't fall and you downclimb, then you haven't blown an onsight...

notoriously european? HA! Have any of you folks climbed in france or spain??? Or england? Might give you a new definition for euro-wussies...Ceuse would make most americans cry...as would Buoux and lets not even start talking english grit... Get real folks, its all climbing and you are talking semantics here...

its all semantics... my answer yes yes pink The onsight is totally similar to a solo, imo,...ie, the rope and pro was never used...if someone walked up, tried to solo it, but backed down and came back on another day and climbed back up solo, it would still be a solo...it would also be onsight, as in he/she climbed up under there own power and investigated the route, onsight, never weighting anything except their own hands and feet...that is the definition of an onsight isn't it????

Seneca rocks!! THat's where i learned to climb first!!! HAHAHAHA korean war vintage pins !! Nice TR tim...that place freakin rocks...you so have to get down to the NRG also!!

i've got to be home by 5, so i'll be leaving maybe 3:00-3:30...

E32 departing in 1 hour...

Write that gawdammed TR! Its rude to people who live vicariously through this website!!

sweet...i hope the recovery comes off w/o a hitch too!!!

he was offering to do your laundry for a small fee...he's been pestering me w/ the same offer via pm's... I think he needs help w/ this laundry fetish of his...

its 4 stars, only problem is its short...do it...you'll flash it if you are on your game...techy like...comin' from index, won't be an issue for you...

What email? Its an awesome route!! Stick the first bolt and gooo! crux is low, with an interesting very last move (especially if you're short)...very very onsightable for the grade!!!

Little Si tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me and some buds will be up there...

gots to do da laundry!

Nice, dale ! I broke my teef gritting down so hard on my first try, just didn't want to peel and climbed myself into a box...wound up peeling for about the same ride that you took...it took over a year before i tried it again...hahahahahaha...definitely worth it to not cheat and figure it out on tr!

Shouldn't that be "Toof Fairy"?