RuMR

ding ding...round 3 (or 4) here we go here we go... So, i guess you "implying" that you'll be "rescuing" me sometime soon wasn't a jab??? and how's my jabbing the mounties/boealps a personal attact on you?

i'm slow these days...too much work...

actually, maidinmontana, you are right...most of the climbers on this website (or elsewhere)who didn't get formal training are complete jokes... [DRIPPING SARCASM]

Not really. I'm sure quite a few people don't bother to learn this stuff. And calling it rinky dink is insulting to those teaching the classes. Many of them with experience that may actually surpass your own (GASP). DON'TCHA THINK? it is a big assumption to talk to a complete stranger (me) and make assumptions about my climbing experience... Nowhere have i ripped yours... And frankly, i've seen a lot of "instructors" that are a complete joke...and in a position to get people really fucked up...yeah, sure there are highly qualified people everywhere...

I completly agree. Judgement is probably more important than anything else. Some of this can be gained by listening to higly experienced instructors while also preparing for the worst. Even the best, most cautious climbers can get hurt. However, I believe RuMR's issues were not with the apparently reckless climbing style being taught in classes, but rather the confiscation of HIS rocks. oh...i get it..."my rocks"... Last time i checked, i wasn't reserving many cliffs for a weekend...how about you?? You sure seem to take offense to me taking offense at an ORGANIZATION...

WOW! Stunning... when are you back stateside, Tim??

Matt, i always bring my ten essentials and a tauntan or two... Fender...sorry for busting your chops (i do recognize that you were just posting a "heads up", very courteous) but i HATE organized climbing with a passion...

ok then build me a safe, efficient rescue system from memory in an acceptable amount of time. I am sure you dilegently review these things so it should be no problem.... This is taught in a BOEALPS course, and something I am sure you would be glad other people know when you get yourself into trouble. Unless you are too proud to be rescued by a graduate of one of these riduculous classes. pretty big leap of yours to just assume that if you didn't attend one of your rinky dinky classes that there is no other way of getting knowledge, don'tcha think???

jeebus...maybe i need to start soaking my hands in formaldhyde? tc's the only place i've ever taped and thought it mandatory- layton and i only had enough to do half our hands, and i recall bleeding like a stuck pig only 10 feet off the ground. i am, of course, a cheap hack though and make no claims to master tech-nique! tc's is certainly much grittier and coarse than the basalt of the portland area or the smith gorge. it seemed like god had just gone over all of the basalt blocks wiht a great big sandy paint brush. What he didn't say is that he's never been there. i've been there...personally, the texture stops the sliding in the crack, which in turn, stops the tearing... I don't tape much of anywhere though...

i seriously doubt that the mounties will be rescuing me anytime soon... although, from what i've seen, it could quite likely be the reverse... i have no wish to join that community...and i don't have an elitist attitude...it is YOU that have it..."uhmmm, we are here teaching a class...please step aside"...

i haven't been to indian creek - is the easiest climb there a painful 5.9? there's only 1 clmib at that grade at TC i recall, then everything else goes to .10 and above, and all on incredibly painful rock where taping is a must! incredibly painful rock? Huh? I have yet to need tape there...

argggghhhhh...why do you even do it????

i wasn't spraying...i think its flat ass rude to reserve cliffs...

just look in the TR section on the mountie website for much fun and excitement!!!

Martin flat out rocks...actually, all of the sturtie's staff is great...

gee thanks...where do i go to fill out the paperwork??

says the fat (well insulated) fuck...

you know...what pisses me off is they basically "reserve" in advance an entire fucking cliff...not that i care about those particular piles, but fuck...its a public resource...i've seen them literally squeeze out folks who actually were there first... fuckin' horseshit if you ask me...

your autosig is the mantra of the boealps/mounties!

evrybody!! Take a swig of the red kool aid!! NOW!!

hmmm...at least you have a firm grasp on the obvious....

not really...as mounties/boealps attracts morons...

*yawn* here we go here we go here we go...

WONDER IF THEYWORK???

That might require two machines. Just sayin. OMFG! more like a semi...