sk

I agree to some extent with forest and tg. I think that fear is a natral part of climbing. It is learning to MANAGE the fear that is a LEARNED skill. Because I am just learning to lead, I am facing alot of thease issues. I definatly lead on things that I KNOW I can climb. Not verry spicey, true. But I am slowly gaining experience in a way that I find useful. I often lead when I climb with my best friend who just started climbing. It's comfortable, she climbs at my leading limit. It works out. I have learned that for me it is a real challenge to be lead dog. I have never realy had the experience of climbing with someone at the same limit I am at. interesting question fern

OMG Dru I think that should be mad into a poster or something. next thing you know, we will have"chicken soup for the climbers soul"

nope, next one would be sept.4 we are every other weekers, untill we get more people.

sort of off topic, but a mental issue. I have found that I am just flat out pissed off that I can't seem to climb as hard or deal with the MAJOR aprouches that my male climbing partners can do. I never swing leads and and often times feel like a burden. But what I am comming to understand is that it is important to climb with people who are there to climb with me because they enjoy my company. So my suggestion would be to give yourself a break. Take the time to heal your spirit. PTSD is a big deal and takes time to over come. It will happen. Determination is good, but sometimes you can do yourself more harm than good if you push too far too fast.

I would say that the picknicking there is hard. We parked at a trail head thinking we would take the boys on a hike and eat some lunch . A way to spend an afternoon. so we get out of the car and me being nieve I expected we could pay our $ in what my 6 year old calls a "three dollar" machine. But NO. It's alll complicated, and you have to GO get some funky pass and the fill out another pass, It's amazing to me that anyone goes threw the trouble at all. and Dru, I get it.... "I'm not worthy" totaly had the "I should just leave my rock shoes right here and take up knitting" moment. but it passed. And I may suck, I may always suck, but I'm having a good time falling and being humbled by nature. As it should be

it's all in "horsecock heaven" scroll down a bit

I should have known I am seeing spots now.... damn you

excuse#1 just got home from leavenworth lastnight excuse#2 did a "big" 2 mile hike this morning excuse#3 read auto sig... I hurt

Awsome TR's!!!! I never looked at getting lost and off route as part of the washington experience. I am feeling way better about my adventure learning sk

quote: Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by krazy 1: ok i get all of those. but if horsecock is summer sausage and the like, what are pep sticks and little smokies? its ALL horsecock. uhhh dru I think you may be mistaken here. I found a bag of what I am sure should be called "snake cock" and will fom now on refer to that wich can not be horse cock as snake cock

I'm saying that I am a crying whining baby woman that has been spoiled be the signage at smith

I'm only doing this 'cause some one asked... so here goes. For starters does anyone have a house they want to give to us we are seriously considering a move. Washington ROCKS!!!! the majority of our trip was camping with the kids. When we got to 8mile campground I laid down on the picnic table, and through the trees I saw the most beautiful and overwhelming amount of rock that I have EVER seen in my whole life. My breath was taken away. And lets face it, from that point on I knew I was in way over my head. There are no gaper signs, no arrows to say climb over there. So, we got misplaced on our way up to Givler's Dome (JK wont let me say LOST) we finally found it and realized that we didn't have enough of a rack (must get more cams) to climb it. Disappointed, but at least we saw it. BTW really enjoyed the 3rd class scramble on the way to the dome!!! Much fun so we hiked back down to Alphabete wall and JK lead Dogleg Crack 5.8+*** realy fun climb (I fell) and then we went to Classic Crack, where we saw the ONLY group of climbers we saw the whole day friday. and jk lead that (stud) and I fell Are you seeing how my week went???? we realy had a great time. Enjoyed Leavenworth the camping was great the kids had tons of fun and we got to drink beer with figger8 at duckboys so there you go! thank you for asking and next time I go to leavenworth I want to climb with someone familiar with the area [ 08-18-2002, 02:54 PM: Message edited by: sk ]

sorry we missed you ice guy, we left before you posted and were on our way out of Leavenworth on saterday. We had a duckboys pub club friday night! it was fun. Maybe we can get more people next time, we will be going back hope you had fun!!!

Best part of bouldering is when you use your HOT spotter as a crash pad hooray for not pulling the move

My mom eats pb& mayo, pb& pickles and she doesn't even like to climb stairs... Having just returned from horsecock heaven I think I will stick with the tried and true

Thank you all for the great ideas and suggestions. We leave tomorrow and are SOOOOOOO excited to get on our way. Hope you all have a great week, We will be thinking of you working away while we are camping and having fun sk

where where the hell is bill... maybe he went to get a striped t-shirt there at leat I feel better now

Man, that will teach me to eat!!!!! i've been dying to quote camper van behtovin

decendents????? just guessing

yes yes violent femms it is

name band 77no tomorrow 88 I forget what 8 was for 9 's for a lost cause an 10's for everything everything you can all just piss off into the air, behind my back I can see them stare, they'll hurt me bad but I don't mind, they'll hurt me bad they do it all the time

dead kenadys= too drunk to fuck dead milk men= bitchin' camerro [ 08-09-2002, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: sk ]

both are suicidal, off first(?) album was asking if you quoted them??? who you quote>????

nice work cpt. hope you boys are having a great time, and not causing toooo much trouble sk

I like trask too! for you pal!