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quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: it has a cougar on the logo Hey man, thats scary, cougars are nothing to joke about. I hear they are becoming a real problem on Mt. Si. I guess the Schmidt Ice is stronger, so it must be better, eh?

Amen to that, Brother Trask.

When I was a child and had nosebleeds, I fiercely denied nosepicking was the cause. (at this distant remove, I can't honestly recall, but since I'm an adult now, I assume it was nosepicking). Anyhow, to the topic at hand, my parents always threaten cauterizing as the cure for incessant inexplicable nosebleed.

Heidelberg Olympia Buckhorn Schmidt Whatever your favorite cheap ass party beer, the key is to chill it down as much as you can. At 34 degrees (farenheit, Dru) even moose piss will go down passably well.

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: [/qb] I think ethics only survive if the previous generation passes them onto a new generation of climbers. [/QB] I'll be doing my bit for the cause, taking a newborn gym rat out this weekend to teach him to lead cracks for his first day on real rock. Must resist the dark side....

quote: Originally posted by glen: So far, the best tool I've come across for pulling bolts is a ball joint adjuster I've got a customized slide hammer, like those used to pull tapered bearings and such. Works great on rawl split shank and the like, but the 5 piece expansion anchors are more of a hassle, gotta disassemble the bolt, fish out sleeve pieces, thread bolt back into the cone, then yank it away. And we haven't even touched on filling holes...

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Egads! Here I sit doing nothing and Cavey starts yelling at me. Allison never came to my aid. I am so alone. Wasn't in caps, ergo he's not yelling, just trolling.

Swallow my sole? You mean like a deep throat foot fetish? Eeeeuuww, thats a remarkably grotesque image. NO TRASK, NO, NO IMAGE NEEDED!

quote: Originally posted by haireball: Bob Plumb made the second ascent of the Soviet Route on Bonanza with Dave Stutzman, back in '78 or '79. Plumb told me the rock was abysmal. Phew. Well thats it, I'm definitely not going to feed that monkey anything more.

Bonehead: yeah, I'd never considered it until I scoped things out last week following my Washington debacle. I confess the high roadhead had an appeal. Ben (stepson) is turning 21 in August, so he's got a few years on your boys. He's had a smattering of technical rock play over the last 18 years, but his alpine experience has been limited to N Ridge of Stuart with me and Black Peak with his friends. Some snow and scrambling skills and are important for Thorsen, its a little more serious than Ellinor. Can your boys self arrest? It could be an okay trip for them, but I'd recommend you bring a 9 mil and a few slings so you could belay them over the sections with consequences.

Well, they shouldn't fight unless maybe someone had a digital camcorder and wanted to post it here... Throw in a couple more and make it a tag team event.

This was an enjoyable outing, so I wanted to recommend it to anyone looking for a good little alpine primer. I took my stepson out to further his mountain education on the east ridge/face of Thorsen, just north of Mt. Washington. You get a little bit of everything: clearcut, steep timber, low angle ridge with snow & slabs, steep gully with moats & slopes to 45 degrees, boulder scrambling, and longish traverse requiring routefinding to the main summit. Great views too. We didn't see anyone up there, and no signs of any other passage once we left the faint traces in the timber. And all that for only a half day's outing! Much better than say, the usual on Mt Ellinor.

Black Peak perhaps? It'd be great to get him up to a point where the scope of the Cascades is revealed.

Marek: I gotta weigh in with the Caveman on this one, nothing in this thread seemed any less than genial banter until you held forth. And as for personal email, I don't wanna read it and don't even want to hear about it. Lighten up, what does anyone else's opinion (mine included) matter anyway? You can be amused or be informed, but you can only be insulted to the degree that you allow. Save your anxiety for the things that matter.

Hah, the Soviet Route was an old obsession of mine. Might still be, but I haven't fed that particular beast in awhile. Has it ever actually been repeated? Its hard to find anyone who even knows about, much less having done it. I traversed under it once, enroute to the couloir on the SW peak. FYI, that couloir is not one of those that results in late season water ice (silly boys, where did we think we were, the Sierras?). Awesome blueberry picking on the way to the Bonanza-Northstar col though.

Start at the top of the jokes, hold down the left mouse button and scroll down to the bottom, release the left button and all is highlighted. Click and release the left button, click "copy" on the menu thus revealed, go to your favorite word processor, open a new document, left click and release, click on paste and hit return. voila. on my machine anyway...

quote: Originally posted by pope: my climbing pace slowed, when career and family pushed alpinism to the back burner Been there, done that

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: Roboclimber- you could redeem yourself with some points for major appliances in the yard or on the porch. Greg Marriage to a cousin would do it too

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: How about trailers and junk cars in the yard Dude, you've been to my house? Only two trailers and three dead cars, so its not yet a collection to brag about, but life is long and I have hope...

Naw, it doesn't really matter what either of us think, which is part of the charm of this whole board. And I'm not necessarily in disagreement with you, I'll take the Cascades over the Olympics anyday, but I live near Olympia which puts the Olympics close, and the range does have a certain diminutive burly appeal, like a nasty old scarred up bulldog: you know you shouldn't pet it but you're tempted to anyway. I'm not trying to change your mind, just your terminology. My last outing wasn't rubble but rather more akin to approaching the picketts via stetattle creek or doing the tower route on big four, a different kind of horror that Lowell refers to as "subalpinism." Anyway, what all this has to do with Kangaroo Ridge I haven't a damned clue. Sheesh, I guess you got the loser part right

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: I never referred to anything but the Tooth as rubble. YOu are reading into shit. Kiss my ass loser Well, I'd kiss your ass with my boot, Corporal. Having short term memory problems? As you said in an earlier thread regarding Mt Washington: quote: I call that stuff rubble. Prime reason for me to climbe elsewhere besides these peaks.......

Yeah, I gotta agree. Seems like Caveman referred to it as "rubble" but thats not exactly accurate. Its an adventure range for sure, and while I got spanked with a slide alder switch on Washington recently, I've done several good routes on that peak, and not a lick of brush on Constance (after the approach anyway...) But whats with the Tenino sig, surely your not one of we happy few, the 1238 souls of Tenino?

Read up bub, TG's buried a child, which is a damn sight worse than a partner. I've lost several partners over the last 25 years, and I don't agree with you at all. Sure, the sport is trivial in the big picture, but so are most of the things we all do, and you can die at any of them: work, driving, playing in the ocean, or mowing the damn lawn. I'm no fan of death in the mountains, the romantic charm of that wore off with my youth long ago, but I'm more opposed to life without joy, and out there is one of the many places I find it. Do you have some personal trauma behind you blanket statements? I don't think anyone here will shit on you for sharing your story, but pontificating in generalities seems to paint a target on your ass...

quote: Originally posted by roboclimber: Fred, Hey would you be interested in doing a Olympic Climbers Guide book? Awww, that'd be easy. Every route takes the obvious gully to the brushy ramp, but the last half pitch is pure joy and distinctly alpine.

Awright! First post and its a total troll. Give us some more clues so we can figure out which one of the jokers are you.... We spend our whole lives looking for a reason to die, be patient, sooner or later it will present itself.