scott_harpell

global capitol will never work. Mainly because many dont agree with capitolism. You think that the middle eastern countries are gonna sign on to a business deal with the likes of the U.S. and Israel? It would be nice, but it just aint gonna happen. We are just to different to create the international community that looks so good on paper. When a religious group is intent on killing anyone that is not in allignment with their principles, it kinda makes unification difficult. not to mention when there are dozens of such groups.

On cc.com? That's rich! Are there any people that ever read fox on cc.com? kosovo... much deception with the "no-one died when clinton lied" slogan. 100,000 people turned into what 3,000? If you wanna change minds, this is not the place. 99% here agree with you. Nice security blanket anyways.

yeh yeh! I'm feeinin' to get outside!

Muslims and Jews together? I think not. The europeans are anti-semitic enough. You think that we can just turn around a few thousand years worth of hate? Just doesn't work that way.

It will never happen. We will destroy this rock before we can even be on terms with the French let alone the militant theocracies. The best that we can hope for is... That we just leave eachother to our own devices and self-inflicted extinction.

Yeah. So work on getting a president you can support rather than whining about a president who's term will end in months. What are you gonna do impeach him for his last 3 days in office?

well we likely do live next to each other.

dont talk abotu muffy that way! I am not THAT young!

"We [the world] are all one big happy family" yeah the manson family. i would rather live next to trask than some [fill in the militant religious group (from tree-huggers to militant christians)] that wants to kill me just because i am not of the same religious affiliation as he. this is idealistic bullshit. Are you gonna waltz over there and tell them that they are welcomed to 'our family' hahahaha naive

you wish grandma.

no doubt. must be a gluton for punishment. but it is we that have to hear her whine when her comp melts down.

I love all this yammering on a climbing BBS. What are you doing to help th situation? Are you as concerned as you say? It has been said that you can tell the true motivations of a person by their daytimer and their checkbook. What are you doing htat is pro-active for the causes you so vehemently speak for on this board? Are you donating your money to these grass-roots politicians? Are you donating your time for the humanitarian causes? Just a thought.

what about canadian companies? I am going to C uba soon and I can just find travelprice.ca any others?

jeeeeeezuuuuuus!

looking for both. anyone have a super8 proj. kicking around from early home film days? or mabe a pro has a 16mm around? lemme know. gratzie

Then whqat are you saying? Yeah I dont have documentation because I would have to sort through 50 million murders to find the right one.

LMAO!

Scott- Oral histories, particularly family related, are often incomplete, and slightly distorted. The stories usually distort over time. I'm not denying that her father disapeared - millions did. Stories such as hers are withing the realm of truth. Chill out man. dont tell me to chill out. i am not gonna let you back pedal and say that her story was two bit, and that literacy was justification for genocide.

well it happened more than 20 years ago... so i dont know what you want me to do about it. are you denying this happened? 50 MILLION times over? If you would like her e-mail adress you are welcome to it, but you must speak russian or lithuanian. Her grandpa is gone. They do not know where he is. That is not two bit. If you really believe what you are saying you are a little more human than those that comitted these acts. I am trying not to hate you, but you give me little recourse.

Scott- Read above. Read. Here's a hint (literacy=+, murders=-(*10^3)) these statements seem to be contradictory. no-one said litteracy was bad.

So you feel that them being able to read evens out the fact that their family members are killed? They were farmers! Do you think that because they could now read Marx they were happy despite the fact that their culture was lost, their family dead and their stomachs empty. How dare you say that something as trivial as literacy can even out the murder of so many millions of people?

No, they hate them for killing their mothers, fathers, children, brothers, sisters, friends and countrymen. What's next? Are you going to tell me that this did not happen?

Capitalism - AT WHAT COST! just because i dont like soviet-government does not mean i am a capitalist. nice try though.

Scott- It's clear you don't know that much about the Russia aside from some 2-bit horror stories. I suggest some reading, The Russian Century, B Moyhnahan to start. And then read about the conditions in Russia prior to communism. Where people were dragged off and shot for insulting the tsar. And an educated populace, that can read of the horrors of it's regime, through underground newspapers, is the beginning of the undoing of a communist society. Look at the changes beginning in China, as an increasingly affluent educated middle class begins to want more freedom. Uhm. yeah So, the merits of the Socialist contributions are only the one leading to the fall of said system. Two bit horror stories huh? So... the ukranian massacre was ok cause the soviets put a book in their hands first? 10-20 million people dead but hey! at least they could read! i think it is you that needs to read up. I have lived there twice and even gone to school there for a year taking 90% history courses in russian and english. How about you not trivialize the murders of millions of various ethnic groups as "two-bit horrow stories" huh?

and usually at the same time too.