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E.g. does anyone really take issue with the idea that you can recognize that someone has all of the virtues that make someone an exceptional soldier with an outstanding service record, and acknowledge that a sincere love of country motivated their service ...and still think that that most or all of their ideas on policy are completely wrongheaded and would be disastrous for the country if they were implemented? nothing scares me more than a man w/ a True Belief in The Cause, whether that cause be god, king, country or cc.com the truth is, as your boy says, patriotism can very well be the refuge of a scoundrel - i don't doubt that timothy mcveigh and john wilkes booth were both patriots in their own hearts i think smedley butler was largely right in regards to the ulterior motives his service was set to, but that said, i'm not certain the world woulda been a rarer shade of blue if a different parcel of bitter-bastards had him as their slave
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looks excellent. superfun. thanks!
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[TR] Mt Jefferson - Pimp Fest on the Jeff Park 6/19/2008
ivan replied to ivan's topic in Oregon Cascades
been 7 years since i gave ole'jeff anohter try - i'm up to 0-2 now but i suppose you gotta punch the ticket to make the 3rd time the charm? good times none the less - oleg who i ain't seen since fuck-all n' the powderhound of course - busted out of pdx early saturday to spectacular skies - easy driving all the way to the trailhead - mostly snow-free the first half but the last half to jeff park still doable in tennis shoes arrived around noon n' spent the day sunning on the bare patches, binge'n'purging n' soaking in the views of the big, big route -dinner by 5 n' bed by 6 up at midnight even as daylight's saving fucked us n' made it 1 - a southern breakfast n' half-frozen water n' then up we went - post-holing here and there, me steadily fallling behind n' sweating like the proverbial fat kid in the candy store - b the moraine top i was content to say fukkit n' wander back down so the Tremendous Two could continue at break-neck speed n' get it done piled 3 sleepign bags on top of myself back at camp and snoored away until i heard the rotten sound of those dismal bastards bounding back into ear-shot just a couple hours later - they too will be back to settle the score someday rightous walk out, slipping n' sliding on the slickery trail in my soul-less shoes, passing a deluge of day-hikers winter's dead as disco -
too busy packing to give sammy a good read, but inshahallah, it will be done, as i like me some old skewl english i figure patiotism is essentially the civic equivalent of religion, and as such, is prone to a myriad of interpretations, most of which i'll disagree with but all of which i'll have to concede are no more legitimate than my own i also figure a guy earns 2 medals of honor his patriotism is safe to assume, though in truth ole smedley caught the tale end of an era when said medals were given away like books o' mormon (twenty alone for the massacre at wounded knee ) i don't understand your final question but will have to wait till monday to sort it out...
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dunno, the logo long since rusted n' fell off
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suddenly the pieces are falling into place
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would lincoln's executive actions stood up to such scrutiny? and can you accuse the Bearded One of such egregious n' ersatz patriotism? meh. i never met america. i hear she's hot though, so i'm looking forward to our heated encounter
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meh. wasn't the nsa recording every email ever at that time, can it be that hard for future generations to reconstruct? i haven't met a single human being who wants hillary as a candidate, so i'm all for faux news convincing her to keep the fuck out
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the cartoon clearly claims that liberals are non-patriots - look at it again and tell me how i'm reading it wrong? the "you don't love your country if you're an obama-type" meme is out there in the zietgiest lately as i'm sure you're aware - my point is it's bullshit - sounds like you agree in the case of snowden so i guess we're good
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"he is a lover of his country who rebukes it's sins and does not excuse them" my line is its retarded to assume that patriotism is the sole province of a single political persuasion, as your cartoonist suggested - butler would've been considered a die-hard patriot to conservatives today up to his publishing of "war is a racket" (not so different to snowden really), and yet he was no less a lover of his country the day after it hit the stores.
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Nutjobs are not a new thang--on either side of das politik. Civilian or military. not my question nor my point. smedley (side note, coolest name for a ninja-warrior ever, no?) was hardly a nut-job but a right-noble product of the roosevelt era i know you dig on. bull-shitted his way into the marine's officer corps at 16 or near to it. won 2 medals of honor and would have been 3 if the world knew much about his china experience. the question was: was he a patriot? would you have dared dispute his love for god, king n' country despite his latter-day condemenation of cash, coin n' corporations?
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It's always fun to see the resident libtard megalomaniac using Ivan's login. hardly - the double-plus enigma-proof password i got issued in the golden years of the the g.w. regime is nigh-on unbreakable
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here's a curious puzzle for our pal: patriot or not, from the perspective of a conservative? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
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it's always fun to see the fans of fox effect an "you're the product of main-stream media" mien
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3/4 - day 10 - took the day off to do some union agitating but it abated soon after noon - winged it out to beacon and got another solo lap on stone soup in despite my snot-filled senses wrecking my equilibriums full spring in the fucking first week of march, the world flipped on it's frack'n vernal maidenhead
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it gets broke in the alpine, it gets buried in the alpine
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seems like torment can only be better when frozen solid
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yup, if yer liberal ya can't be a patriot...or have a work ethic - well done, sir
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[TR] Sandy glacier caves - Pure Imagination pillar 3/1/2015
ivan replied to YocumRidge's topic in Oregon Cascades
trippy - heard in the news that a big chunk of the other cave collapsed? -
[TR] Colonial Peak - Watusi Rodeo Indirect 2/28/2015
ivan replied to Ryan Hoover's topic in North Cascades
anything worth doing's worth getting filthy drunk celebrating -
ya'll ain't got a canadaian version of CSPAN to help you cope the zees?
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[TR] Colonial Peak - Watusi Rodeo Indirect 2/28/2015
ivan replied to Ryan Hoover's topic in North Cascades
in danger of becoming the new triple coolers?