wow. I seam to remember a few hand cracks in there somewhere too. perhaps one of us was off route. But, then why did i climb it more than once. Oh, perhaps cuz it was great just like the stanley burgner. I think both climbs are like apples and oranges...kinda like orbit and outerspace.....But then what do i know; I am just an unempolyed dirtbag climber.
oh, just go try it for yourself 512dude