epb

Seriously man, give it a break. It's not that bad. You got something you want to discuss about climbing that is "serious," it will get discussed. So what if there are some random spray posts in the response, and the spray section is a no worry man. Come on.

way to be on top of things JayB. I'm looking forward to hearing what they have to say in response...if they give you one. By the way...what's EMC?

I started typing that post yesterday However I am blind and the brail on my keyboard is worn out, making it difficult for me to type. That's why my last post was delayed.

Alex apparently has a life, or does he? However, all of us that do not, need the comfort of spray. To always know it is there when we need to shoot off at the mouth and entertain ourselves when porn no longer can. Now unless alex wants to come over wearing that cute tutu AlpineK saw him skking in last weekend and keep my hands occupied so I can't spray....than I will spray on. The ironic thing....I have never posted spray. Alex's lame ass complaint about it though ironically has only encouraged me to make this one my first. Hmmm... Congratulations Alex. I am YOUR contribution to the spray you hate.

Better safe than sorry, but I hiked the presidential range traverse over 6 days in January in payless hiking boots (no crampons)...or were they hiking boots at all? hummm. Regardless they were from payless. Don't hold be responsible for your toes, but an up and down of huntington ravine doesn't require a hell of a lot. and no I am not hardcore, I was just poor at the time.

Hell 8.5 still isn't bad, considering what you can save. Not much more than sales tax in reality. [ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: epb ]

What's the deal with Barrabes? Do you get stuck with a huge applicable tax/vat bill or what? That sight looks too good to be true....is it? However, the whole page on taxes and shipping all reads a bit fuzzy to me. Anyone care to share any enlightening knowledge they have about ordering from them?

Can anyone lay out the applicaple taxes and tariffs for products bought from Barrabes in English. Is there a way to know what these will be before you place your order. The page on there site about this reads fuzzy to me. Just trying to figure out what the deal was? Would it be benificial to buy a bunch of gear at once?

OUCH!

Yah I know that now. I'm a little slow with the keyboard. So once again I posted that before I read your newest post. I'm no good with these message boards. Oh well.

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: epb ]

I know your not arguing man. No worries. I was just looking for someone elses opinion, not an arguement. Hell, I probally will never climb everest or any 8,000 meter peak any way...and probally for no reason less than I'm too damn unstable to wait around for the permit to go through. You did though, and congrates on that.

Sorry...That last post was posted before I say your new one. Seems like you know exactly what I'm talking about. i.e. Team Quoka or whatever. That's what I saw as well. The whole base camp seemed to be full of team quokos. 2 meter domes tents and all. 8 bags for 5 though, doesn't seem to be that bad though...more like Ghetto fabulous,for Everest any way. [ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: epb ]

It's not about being "gnarly" and "hardcore." I just hate to make such a fuss about a climb. I agree the nepalise people are the friendliest people in the world. My question was posed more general at the waste that I saw on Everest. I'm not just talking about the physical garage that is ever present, but energy. So much energy by so many people, to get just a few guys up one mountain. How much of this waste is necessary to make the climb? That's all.

It isn't a matter of climbing something big without permits and hassles. I lived in Nepali for 8 months and spent an additional year elsewhere in S. Asia. I never really thought much about it when I lived in Asia, but what I saw at Everest seemed to be ridiculous. I have climbed numberous routes in the himalyas. However, all the major expeditions always seemed to be overkill. I was just wondering if that assumption was right....or how much of the use of sherpas and porters is necessary on a climb like everest? [ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: epb ]

Would it be possible to do a himilayan expedition, where the use of sherpas is the norm, without the use of sherpas? Such as on everest or k2. I mean are fresh potatos, pancakes, and cotton clothes for base camp really necessary? Couldn't we just suck it up and go freeze dried all the way, and stink for a month? Then carry the excess gear in stages while acclimitizing? [ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: epb ]

WMI (wilderness medical institute), WMA (wilderness medical associates), and SOLO (stonehearth outdoor leadership opportunities) are the institutes you want to get your certification from. Check them out on the web for there course locations and scheduling. The WFR course is a must for any climber or outdoor enthusist.

I was just wondering who here can do a one arm? I can do 20 and some odd pull ups and even more chin ups, but can barely hold my body weight with one arm. How many pullups are the kids out there doing with two arms that can pull off a one arm?

Salomon Super 9's would be fine. The cold would be your only concern. I wouldn't be too concerned with it though, I have seen many people climb routes on washington with much less. If you are concerned though, rather than buying a new pair of boots....just get a pair of overboots to keep you warm.