JayB

Necro would probably be willing to give you a ride in the "cargo" portion of his white Ford Econoline van with no windows in the back ......

10:00 it is. Word. I can see the V1's quaking in fear already.....

Never underestimate the power of the placebo effect.

Why the obsession with Arnold my Evil Homonym? Did Arnie grope you? Would you like to talk about it?

Seriously...

Settle this like men at the 1st Inaugural Distel32 Bouldering Tour. Contestants will attempt to construct an equalized, multidirectional gear anchor while locking off on a sick sloper/toe-cam/knee-scum prob...

Funny - virtually all of the groups attacking Schwarzenegger on this issue spared nothing in their efforts to excuse Clinton of the same conduct. Weak. Again "A stife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55221-2003Oct7.html

In a recent survey, 9 out of 10 people who were located and dug-out by their partners after a beacon search concluded that the cash that they shelled out for a beacon was money well spent. Of those respondents who were buried with their beacon and died anyway, 100% concluded that the buying the beacons was indeed a waste of money.

Not only was everything I said taken with the utmost seriousness, everyone was asking where they could get their own Fox News LogoWear, and mattp kept asking me to score him a Fox News sticker for his helmet all weekend. Uncle Tricky also wanted one for his van. The cc.comers who are into yoga were also peppering me with questions about getting their own Fox News Zen/Yoga mats so that they might incorporate the balance that Fox brings to its reporting into their ruminations about life’s big questions during their Zen sessions. Seriously. I also got quite a few compliments on the Kermit avatar.

I want to go on the 1st Inaugural Distel32 Bouldering Tour on my hung-over day as well.

I wear all of my Fox News logo items to the ropeup and I still get mistaken for this guy. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

Another vote for Ramuta's. 2-3 day turnaround, super-high quality. Have to give DP a based on my final visit to his shop.

A second vote for using clove hitches to keep the nuts in opposition....

Thread Drift: My boy can crank. Anyone getting on 12c's after climbing for all of 13 months gets props from me.

Didn't Alistair Crowly put up some lines on the chalk cliffs around the turn of the century?

Actually a number of politicians and candidates have admitted that they inhaled - Swarzenegger being the most recent example - and there was relatively little controversy. The only time it becomes a story is when a politician vehemently denies using drugs, cheating on his wife, or some other such transgression and evidence surfaces that suggests that the said politician lied about his conduct. It's generally not the behavior that causes the scandal - its the fact that the person lied about it, which raises questions about their trustworthiness, and naturally makes people wonder what else that they have lied about. If pretending otherwise helps Canadians cope then far be it for me to shatter these illusions though....

bush did not let congress and the commission see the intelligence reports for august about bin laden (daily brief reports). i tend to not believe in a conspiracy to let it happen, but the evidence seems to point to, at least, a serious lack in judgement. Uh-oh. j_b and I agree on something. I sense a conspiracy.....

There's also the fact that virtually everyone assumed that the first collision was an accident, and it wasn't until the second hit that it was clear to anyone that an attack was underway. Also, consider for a moment, the sheer number of airliners in the sky just after the first (and even the second) attack - all in close proximity to major urban centers. Good luck shooting down the right plane.

Report of the Joint Inquiry into the Terrorist Attacks of September 11 - By the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Real explanations generally lack the simple, compelling narrative found in the average conspiracy theory, and such is the case with the real report – hence their limited appeal relative to such tracts. The culprits are much more prosaic – bureaucratic turf protection and bungling, critical failures of inter-agency communication, data overload, etc – in sum, a classic intelligence failure. To make the leap from the very obvious and evident failure of American intelligence agencies to detect and thwart the attack beforehand to a sitting President and his cabinet engaging in a conspiracy to permit such an attack in the hopes of advancing their nefarious plot to achieve global domination is, to put it mildly - reaching just a bit - and certainly represents an abdication of one’s responsibility to ground one’s beliefs upon factual information. At least read the abridged findings on page 27-33 of the actual report.

This is where you lose me. Got any links to articles/info? One of Many Punch "Israel 9-11," or "Mossad Responsible 9-11," or "Zionist Conspiracy 911," or "Jews Responsible 9-11" into Google and have a look.

The absence of any conclusive evidence to suggest that this theory has any validity whatsoever is probably the main obstacle at this point. There's also the sources. Contrary to popular opinion - one should always take the source of any rumor or speculation into consideration, and ponder what interest they have in believing and circulating such theories. None of the figures involved in promoting this theory - which in its original incarnation claimed that the Mossad was behind the attacks so that the US would give Israel cart blanche to attack the Palestinians - should be given any special credence as any claim that they have to objectivity is utterly compromised by their all too obvious biases and unconcealed hostility towards the putative "culprits" in this disaster, be they the Mossad, Israel, the US, or the present administration. Was there not a committee that investigated every facet of the intelligence communities efforts and shortcomings for at least 18 months? Did they not report their findings to Congress? It would be miraculous indeed if they found anything that even hinted at such a conspiracy and the Democrats, NGO's, the media et al just decided to let it slip - not much of a story there, I'll admit - but you'd think it would at least make it onto page three. Clinton can't get blown in his office, Nixon can't rob an appartment, and if the story turns out to be true - a whitehouse aid can't leak the name of a CIA operative to a reporter - without the truth coming to light but a conspiracy of this magnitude can be perpetrated without a shred of factual evidence implicating the actors coming to light despite two years of the most intense scrutiny of any event in our history? Seems just a tad far-fetched to me. When serious people and/or publications with reputations for integrity and impartiality come forward with factual evidence to support such a claim - then I'll give the theory its due. Every rational person should do the same IMO.

The latter notion is quite offensive and ranks right up there with the theory that the Air Force is holding the cryopreserved bodies of aliens that crashed in Roswell at area 51, the notion that there is a Zionist Occupation Government (ZOG) attempting to soften up the US for an invasion by the UN, and various other conspiracy theories in both its logic and the weight of the evidence behind it. Such beliefs reveal very little about the world as it is, or the events that they purport to explain, and a great deal about the and ideological predispositions and analytical capabilities of those that believe them. If you believe that the current administartion knew in advance that Al-Queda intended to use commercial airliners to destroy the Pentagon, the Twin Towers, and possibly either Capitol Building or The White house but allowed it to happen so that they could use the incident as a pretext to conquer the world - you are in rare company indeed.

Probably arriving after midnight on Friday....

What ye sow....