Dave_Schuldt

Pictures http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/plab/showphoto.php?photo=404&papass=&sort=1&thecat=500 http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/plab/showphoto.php?photo=403&papass=&sort=1&thecat=500

I have seen some realy bad climbing articals in National Geographic. I always wonder if some nonclimbing relative or friend will give me a subcription to R &I or climbing .

My own feelings about the casualty-vampiresque reportage of the media aside, one does have to give minor props to the 2 folks at King5 who try (emphasis on the word TRY) to keep their talking heads straight. No word from KOMO, KIRO, or god forbid the KCPQ mutants on this board, eh? But maybe that's for the good of the world. More lost kittens at 11. Fred THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHIT!!!

Matt, I feel your pain. I spent 3 years as a bike mesenger, about one a year the media would do a report on us. Most of the time they were verry lame. I felt used when a TV crew inerviewed me after some cyclist (not a mesenger) got killed running a red light. When I saw the report i wish I had kept my mouth shut. They had a preconcieved notion that we were all crazy. I felt thier attitude was patronising. I got sick and tired of people thinking we were all crazy. TV local news aims it's programing at women between the age of 35 and 45. I don't blame them, they are producing what the masses want to see, like any good capitalist. We all have to make a living some how. King 5 and Newstips, there was a thread awhile ago about trying to explain climbing to nonclimbing friends and relatives. It might shed some light on Matts frustration. I think it was started by Col Von Spanker. Everone needs an epic now and then to prove to themselves that they CAN do it. IT FEELS GREAT TO ACOMPLISH SOME THING HARD!!!

Flaming and chestbeating should be added. Nice job mer

JUST FILL THE PACK WITH THEN IT WILL BE WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't have information about climbing facility per se, I have some overall information about the project. This is attached along with some photos of the area. Please feel free to send it on to interested folks. The process will be to 1) determine if there is a sizable interest in contructing a climbing facility the area, as demonstrated by individuals emailing and attending meetings; 2) figure out where it might fit on the site; 3) determine the costs for making the improvements; 4) estabishing priorities for all of the improvements using community and Parks comments; and 5) if it rises to the top of the priority list of improvements that can be built with the available budget, then it moves into design and construction. Our next meeting is 7-9 pm March 20th at the PIMA Institute 1627 Eastlake Ave. Feel free to call me if you would like to discuss further. David David W. Goldberg Parks and Recreation Project Planner (206) 684-8414 Pro Parks: I-5 Open Space Project History In November 2000, Seattle voters approved a $198.2 million levy lid lift for Parks and Recreation, including $1.8 million to improve the area under I-5 in Eastlake. The levy will fund more than 100 projects to improve maintenance and enhance programming of existing parks, including the Woodland Park Zoo; acquire, develop and maintain new neighborhood parks, green spaces, playfields, trails and boulevards; and add out-of-school and senior activities. The levy will also fund an acquisition and development "opportunity fund." I-5 Open Space Proposal The Eastlake Neighborhood Plan, completed in Sept. 1998 contained the following initial ideas for the open space including: · Making pedestrian and bicycle connections from Fairview Ave through the area under I-5 to the steps leading up to Capitol Hill via Blaine and Howe Streets. · Treating storm-water run-off. · Planting suitable trees and other vegetation. · Improving safety by installing lighting and call boxes. · Incorporating public art. · Creating sport climbing and mountain biking facilities. Parks and Recreation is also considering the area for an “off-leash” facility. The Seattle Arts Commission has also identified the site as a location for a significant public art project. Other community ideas will be considered during the initial planning phases. Budget: Pro Parks provides $1.8 million for planning, design and construction. Location: The I-5 Open Space, is approximately 7.5 acres located on Washington Department of Transportation (WSDOT) property between Lakeview Blvd. and Franklin Ave. and Howe and Garfield Streets. Parks and Recreation will need to negotiate a lease with WSDOT to provide for this use. Schedule: Planning Design Construction Completion 2002-3 2003 2003 – 4 2004 Community Involvement Parks will prepare a public involvement plan that outline procedures for soliciting and considering public input. The Plan identifies people affected, timeline, the structure of the advisory committee, and communication techniques. There are many opportunities to be involved. · Community-wide Public Meetings and Workshops - Parks will hold open meetings and workshops where information is shared with the general community. · Neighborhood and Stakeholder Meetings – Parks will go to neighborhood council, neighborhood plan stewardship and other stakeholder meetings as needed to provide updates and gather comments. · Advisory Committee - Parks will work with the Eastlake Neighborhood Plan stewardship committee and other stakeholders to solicit community direction on a regular basis. These points include architect selection, design development, development of construction drawings, construction start, and project completion. Contact Information Project Planner: David W. Goldberg Seattle Parks and Recreation 800 Maynard Avenue S. 3rd Floor Seattle, WA 98134 (206) 684-8414 davidw.goldberg@seattle.gov I would post the pictures but I don't know how. If I could forward them to someone who could post them that would be nice.

What about that place in Montlake that forest m sugested?

Cool auto sig, trask!!!!!!

If you take anything I post on here seriously your........

DFA, you should go to jail for posting such a dangerous drug. I stayed up all night playing it. HELP I AM HOPELESLY ADICTED.........

BLAH BLAH BLAH

Went to meeting and asked about climbing, no defanate plans yet, it's on the list of things they want in there. If you want it to happen you will have to attend the meetings and get in on the early planning. I will post more info when I get it.

Als goddamit!!!!! I called it at lunchtime!!!! Get your shit together!!!! Too late to change now!!!!!!

ALs IT IS!!! On 45th in Walingford east of the QFC and Walingford center. Icegirl, we will go the Nickerson when we can sit outside. There is no food at Als, however, there are plenty of places to eat nearby. SEE Y'ALL THERE.

Lets get this thread back on track. Als Als Als

Als is leading in the poll.

Thrash on- this has been a good debate. Let's try to call it by noon tomarow, makes life easeir for those without regular computer access.

Looks like you telle geeks chickened out on this one. Too bad she dosen't want to mess around on AT gear. Beck where are you when you are needed????

Pyramid was suggested by David Parker because it's close to the ferry. He is in canada now.

This could be cool. Bush will make many mistakes. it could be done live on the internet, they wouldn't have to be on the same stage. Bushs handlers would never alow such a thing. i bet Sadams verbal skills are much better than Bushs. The whole world would get to watch a tounge tied whinner make an ass of himself. Third world and arab opinion would would come down on Sadams side. Sadam is one slick nother fucker.

Or the Dubliner. Parking in Fremont is tight, however, there is space on Fremont ave up the hill north of 39th street. There are also pay spots on 34th west of the bridge.

I would vote for the Zoo or Als.