Dave_Schuldt

The UW rock between the football stadium and the ship canal. Marymoor park rock in Redmond.

Thanks Fred that was cool

Cool with me.

Nice place, good music. We should go there again. Not to smokey.

WAKE UP AND CHECK THIS SHIT OUT. http://www.nyfairuse.org/action/palladium/palladium.boycott.xhtml They also have discovered extortion as a sales tactic: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2003-01-21-simdesk-cover_x.htm FUCK MICROSOFT!!!

David, I am with you on this one. We have never been to Pioneer Square before. Should be fun. Matt, do you realy want to see shrubyas speach or are you jokeing?

When the Stupid Bowl hangover is under control we need to think about where we are going to drink. Sounds like it's the New Orleans.

There was a thread about a year ago with lots of back country recipies. Do a search. I don't remember the exact title.

This is a PM I got. I am very happy with my life, it is yours that makes me mad! I will continue until you are a two-pack a day addict, with a 38 year old ex stripper for a wife with a totally gnarly whiskey voice. At home will be a bunch of kids depending on you to pay all the bills, which you do, too bad none of them are yours! While you are slaving away, your wife will be having a bunch of affairs with Dan Larson, Caveman, and To The Top. Your life will be sad and pitiful. Aidain (from Tacoma) will be happily married to Jules, Veronica, and Ehmic. All four of them will enjoy each other sexually every night. You will never have sex cause your wife will be too drunk and exhausted to put out. Your only escape will be a smokey bar near your apartment in South Park, where you will eventually impregnate the slutty waitress. Your wife will leave you, and you will have lots of child support payments, alimony, as well as palimaony to the slutty waitress. So sad, yet you deserve it. Alpine K is that from one of your avatars

Well said erik, maybe it's time to get a NO IRAQ WAR sign for my front yard. Can't wait till I tell my Dad, he will shit his pants and spew a bunch of bullshit about how we NEED to go over there with or without the Euros.

This post doesn't reflect my opinion, just wanted to see what the righties had to spray about it. Greg W. where are you?

The Day the Earth Stood Still: An international sick-out http://onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Weinstein011603/weinstein011603.html > The Day the Earth Stood Still: An international > sick-out > > By Rita Weinstein > Online Journal Contributing Writer > > January 16, 2003-Anybody out there remember the > classic sci-fi film by that name? In it, an alien > landed a spacecraft on the Mall in Washington, D.C. > and asked to be allowed to speak to the UN to > deliver a warning: disarm or you will be destroyed. > > The alien, Klatu, didn't specify by whom the > destruction would take place. He did make it plain > that we would certainly do it to ourselves, even if > no one "out there" did. Klatu never made it to the > UN, but he was able to demonstrate to the world that > those who sent him meant business. He caused a > shutdown of all power throughout the globe at a > specified time on a specified date. From cars to > trains to wristwatches, everything came to a halt. > > On Saturday, January 18, there will be very large > anti-war demonstrations in Washington, DC, San > Francisco, and in cities across America. According > to George Monbiot of The Guardian (Jan. 7, 2003), > "On January 18, demonstrators will seek to blockade > the armed forces' joint headquarters at Northwood, > in north London. Three days later, there'll be a > mass lobby of parliament; at 6 pm on the day the war > is announced, protesters will gather in almost every > town centre in Britain. On February 15, there'll be > a massive rally in London." There will also be > demonstrations in cities throughout Europe on > February 15. > > Here's the idea: a global work stoppage, an > international sick day if you will, to take place on > Friday, February 14 (or on the day after the > nighttime bombing begins, if Bush starts the war > prior to February 14) to protest the war on the > world currently being waged by the Bush > administration. Monbiot goes on to add, "The > [Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament] and the Stop the > War Coalition have suggested an hour's stoppage on > the day after the war begins. Many activists [in the > U.K.] are now talking about building on this, and > seeking to provoke wider strike action-even a > general strike." > > So, in England, a kind of "sick-out" movement is > building. If we can get the ball rolling here for a > coordinated "sick-out" across America, a full-blown > "sick-out" day-in essence, a general strike of > protest-could sweep across England, Europe and the > rest of the globe. > > It is we, the folks who show up for work every > day, who are providing the tax dollars to pay for > this war on the economy, the environment, worker > safety, civil rights, and on the poor. We are the > ones who keep the machine up and running. We are the > ones whose children are being short-changed on > education, health care, and clean air and water. We > are the ones who will reap the whirlwind (or will be > sucking wind) when the bill for the administration's > misguided and dangerous policies comes due. > > A general strike early in the last century brought > down the Tsar of all the Russias and changed nearly > a century of history. The Communist Party came > crashing down in Poland thanks to the solidarity of > its workers. If we choose peaceful noncooperation in > maintaining a system badly in need of course > correction, we may surprise ourselves at how quickly > change can be effected. No organization is > necessary, in fact it would probably be > counter-productive. Just start forwarding this > article. Let's all get truly sick and tired of it > all on February 14, 2003 (or on the day after > bombing begins), and make it the day the Earth > stands still. Go out there and get sick! > > Rita Weinstein is a Seattle-based freelance writer > and playwright. Contact her at rwineskin@juno.com. > ===== "Intelligent and conscientious people have doubts -- express yours through conscientious objections to militarism and war. For info. on this topic (not direct-services!), please do visit, www.objector.org>." Spray on suckers!!!

Can we break 100 posts or have we beat this issue to death? See you suckers at the next one.

Yes icegirl, the D & H was cool.

Subject: For the 1st time in BBTC history! The first “BBTC Monthly club meeting and open house” (**more about the title below) Featuring a free screening of the fabulous mountain bike movie “North Shore Extreme 6”. Objectives: Provide a venue for MTB’ers to socialize and network on our fav subject. Create public exposure for the BBTC in a fun and educational environment. Meeting format: A short (5 minute) talk from a BBTC VIP on the state of the club. 20 to 30 minutes of laughin’ and learnin’ with 2 optional Edustations: 1 on trail issues, the other on bike maintenance. Hob-Knob with pals and/or check out what our specialists are offering up. 1 hour (+ -)of Spinnema Paradiso, featuring a free screening of a high quality MTB joint. Refreshments will be served, schwag will be raffled! The first meeting is Monday, Feb 10th at 7:00 (and every 2nd Monday thereafter). Location is Seattle REI in the north meeting room. Our specialists for February’s meeting are BBTC Rock Star Robert Miller with the “Puget Sound Trail Report”, and Peter ‘wrenchsploitation’ Partel with “Mud and Machines demystified: maintaining and cleaning your drive train”. The movie will be “North Shore Extreme 6”. Watch from the safety of your folding chair while famous BC bike pilots Tyler Klassen, Wade Simmons, Grandmaster Dangerous Dan and others take on hard core stunts, burms, doubles, road gaps, death defying drops… This movie will either make you wanna rush out and buy a free-ride bike, or sell the one you have. DON’T MISS IT!!!! More info @ bbtc.org

Wow, that's more complicated than I can handle this early in the morning. My intent was to bring in some people who don't come to smokey bars. They are not wimps, thay can't deal with smoke for whatever reason. I don't mind smoke as long as it's not thick. However it's nice to go nonsmoking once and a while. We have had many a good time at The Latona. I will suggest that place in a few weeks. The person who sent me that nasty PM needs to get a life and relax.

It would have been big enough for the number of people last night.

Specailed, don't feel bad, i have also failed at Poser World. I said fuck and went to the UW rock instead. I have never been back to the gym.

AK, i am shure you can stand a non smoking bar once a month or so. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE BAR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO!!!!!

I would like to have a non smoking Pub Club one a month or so. Jules, minx and others speek up. If enough of us speak up, it will happen.

Nice place, not to smokey. Had a good time. Uncle trickey will post a full report later.

Found this on the BBTC list serve, interesting. More info here. http://www.seanet.com/~smithjones/BBTC/PDFs/IACNovaMtg01-23-03.pdf Skip Card; The News Tribune A study of how much gasoline is used by drivers on Washington's recreational back roads found 49 percent of that fuel is burned by sightseers, fishermen, hunters, campers, berry-pickers and others who typically stay close to their cars. About 31 percent of the gas is consumed by people driving to trails or other sites where they can hike, ski or ride horses and bicycles. Only 20 percent is used by motorcyclists, snowmobilers, 4-wheel-drive enthusiasts and other motorized off-road users.The findings, which could help shape how millions of fuel-tax dollars are spent, surprised officials with the state Interagency Committee on Outdoor Recreation, or IAC. Eighty percent of fuel taxes now spent on off-road recreation goes to maintain motorized trails, educate their users and enforce off-road laws."The study suggests we need some fairly major policy changes in the IAC, and potentially other agencies' programs," said Jim Fox, special assistant to the IAC director.When the IAC commissioned a survey of fuel use on the state's back roads, officials assumed most fuel would be burned by people driving to trailheads to walk or ride. Pollsters lumped sightseeing, berry-picking, picnicking, fishing, camping and other close-to-the-road activities in a broad "other" category."We were surprised that it accounted for 49 percent of the fuel use," Fox said. "We thought it would be a very small number."The goal of the study was to determine whether Washington is properly spending fuel-tax money generated when drivers buy gas in the state but then drive on Forest Service roads or other streets that the state pays no money to maintain. Such roads are often primitive, but they also include paved roads inside national parks.In a sort of fuel-tax refund, the state devotes roughly 1 percent of all fuel tax revenue - usually about $2.7 million a year, or $5.5 million each two-year budget period - to trails. The money flows through the IAC's Nonhighway and Off-road Vehicle Activities program, known as NOVA.Sixty percent of NOVA money now goes to maintain trails and facilities in places where motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles and other off-road rigs are allowed. Another 20 percent goes to educate riders or enforce laws on such trails.The remaining 20 percent is spent on nonmotorized trails and facilities for hikers, bicyclists and horse riders.The money is small change in the state budget, but it means a lot to people using backcountry trails that often cost $900 to $1,300 a mile to maintain, said Jonathan Guzzo, director of advocacy for the Washington Trails Association."When it comes to trails and recreation, $5 million can make a big difference," Guzzo said.Guzzo said the WTA, which represents hikers, plans to push to have more dollars shifted to nonmotorized trails.Motorcycle riders and other motorized users "have been getting 80 percent of the money and contributing 20 percent of the money," Guzzo said. "We just need to get the money reallocated so it goes to the people who provide money to the program."Such changes might not come soon, IAC's Fox said. Rather than suggest changes during the current legislative session, IAC officials are likely to meet with various backcountry groups to work out a new spending formula, he said.The study suggests more should be spent on roadside facilities such as restrooms, Fox said. He said such facilities could be used by every back-road visitor, from drive-by sightseers to backpackers returning from weeks on the trail."We're going to start working with stakeholders right away," Fox said. "My hope would be if we can get all the constituents working together, then we might end up coming up with some funding categories that ultimately everybody could benefit from."The survey, conducted by Bellevue-based Hebert Research, polled 7,194 vehicle owners in Washington state beginning in December 2001. Respondents were selected randomly from the 5.1 million street-licensed and registered off-road vehicles in the state.Percentages of fuel used in back-roads areas are different from the percentages of people who engage in recreation there, since certain activities use more fuel.Of all those who drove back roads for recreation, 31.8 percent engaged in hiking, 14.8 percent in off-road vehicle use, 10.9 percent in cross-country skiing, 8.4 percent in mountain biking, 4.8 percent in equestrian activities and 2.6 percent in snowmobiling. Many users participated in more than one activity.The survey is accurate to within 3 to 5 percentage points.

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If your refering to the place at 60 something and Greenwood, yes. Don't think I can make it this week. See you at Dad Wattsons next week.