lizard_brain

Someone has been stealing trailheads? (Sorry - I've been dying to say it...)

Dra til helvete, drittsekk!

And leaving your car at a trailhead is saying "Take your time - I'm going to be gone for hours, maybe a couple of days."

I never even think about this stuff. I did my first ice climb with a guy that was 62, and the first time I summited Adams was with a guy that was 82. Like Trent said - look at Fred. I think it's attitude as much as physical ability. I ran my first marathon at age 47. There were about 350 participants, and 5 of them were in the 'over 70' age catergory. 4 of those 5 'over 70' guys beat me, one of them by over an hour. Those are my role models.

Wow. If I was in Sweden, the LAST thing I would be thinkin' about would be this site. What a pathetic life. And the Ice Bar - it's a tourist place. Okay, who am I to judge. Ha det bra, mens du er i Sverige. Haaper at du har opportunitet til aa gaa paa fjelltur mens du er der. SKAAL!

Lets have a good September...

I have had great weekends for the last few weeks. It just happened that I took this one off to rest. Damn good luck.

Mildew?

There's ALWAYS rocks on that glissade.

THANKS for the info. Like I said, I've done the route from Pinnacle to Eagle many times (Reflection Lakes to Leavenworth), and done all but Castle a few times besides, and I've been wanting to do this for some time. Sounds like a great trip - I'll be doing this next summer!

Pwned! Lark in the Morning

"Grand Teton" = "Large Teat"

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More entertaining too, I'm sure...

Bring fresh batteries for it.

Aren't you glad you posted this in spray?

Assume what you want. I'm not saying that any grade justifies it. It wouldn't make sense to say that "Every route or move above x.x shoud be bolted." What I'm saying is I appreciate that area, and the less permanent alteration there is done to it the better. You miss the point altogether. That's all I have to say. I realize this is going to get me nowhere, and I'm wasting my time. Thanks for listening.

Like I said, justification based on speculation. Nothing to do with reality or statistics or fact. Just opinions. "Let's put a bolt here! What if...!" Entirely based on fantasy. I'll chime in here to agree with EricB that you are a bona fide tool, lizard_brain. You have no ability to view situations from the perspective of others. You only think of yourself. So... Espousing the philosophy of minimal impact and not altering the natural state of the outdoors qualifies as 'only thinking of myself'? Who is the tool here? You morons - I'm ONLY thinking of others. Christ - add a gondola in the name of improving the route for others, and pat yourself on the back for it. Who is thinking only of themself? You're just feeding your own egos. You're the tools. It's practically a scramble route. Can't you just belay someone across that? Get over yourselves. It's all about your egos - pure and simple. What is the YDS grade of a scramble route, in your opinion? Get lost, troll.

Like I said, justification based on speculation. Nothing to do with reality or statistics or fact. Just opinions. "Let's put a bolt here! What if...!" Entirely based on fantasy. I'll chime in here to agree with EricB that you are a bona fide tool, lizard_brain. You have no ability to view situations from the perspective of others. You only think of yourself. So... Espousing the philosophy of minimal impact and not altering the natural state of the outdoors qualifies as 'only thinking of myself'? Who is the tool here? You morons - I'm ONLY thinking of others. Christ - add a gondola in the name of improving the route for others, and pat yourself on the back for it. Who is thinking only of themself? You're just feeding your own egos. You're the tools. It's practically a scramble route. Can't you just belay someone across that? Get over yourselves. It's all about your egos - pure and simple.

Watever happened to minimal impact?

Like I said, justification based on speculation. Nothing to do with reality or statistics or fact. Just opinions. "Let's put a bolt here! What if...!" Entirely based on fantasy.

Yeah, the only thing wrong with the South Ridge is that it's TOO SHORT! If I go do those again, I'll spend a night or two in the basin, and maybe do the South Ridge one day, then the East Ridge the next day, maybe spend a second night and do something else before heading out. Or just hike in Friday evening and do the East Ridge on Saturday, then knock off the South Ridge before heading out on Sunday... Plenty of choices...

I'll add that any so-called 'reason' for this bolt is nothing more than justification. How many people have been injured or killed on this route? How many were turned back by this move? Without solid numbers, the 'reason' for this bolt is nothing more than SPECULATION - purely imaginary. How many years were people climbing this route without this bolt? Is altering this route somehow making this route 'better'? And any answer you give is pure SPECULATION or OPINION. The only fact is that someone has altered the natural state of the route. Thanks for altering the natural state of the route.

Thanks Scott very well said. I think the fact that this is a commonly guided climb, coupled with the scenario you describe gives great perspective. LB....you sir are a tool Brilliantly put.

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