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it's all smoke and mirrors - tread softly to avoid the wrath of the wicked wedgie woman

You guys kill me...You're in it now. This is it. Can ya believe it? Wow. It's like the Matrix, ya know.

Shhhhhhhhh...he dosen't want y'all to know.

Oh sure...that's what you say now. You were hunkerin' up tighter'n a bull's ass in fly time last night though.

How was I then?

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Nah I dorked your woman at the Holiday Inn. No shit? I thought Dru's woman, Bob, was never allowed outta the apartment.

what about that lung device that lets you breathe when burried. anything to that?

Nice Roid! Yours Cavey? [ 12-04-2001: Message edited by: trask ]

who the hell does make em anyway? I wanna email the turd and get some good uns made. I'm on the mission now cause this is important shit. [ 12-04-2001: Message edited by: trask ]

good goin' hikerwa...hang in there bud, I'm 10 months now without. Don't miss em' anymore, although I still like a cigar (not inhaled) when I drink and rock the fuckin' neighbors with AEROSMITH !!!!!!!!!!!!

quote: Originally posted by hikerwa: mmmm, beer is golden...wait, hey yukky! at least I keep my mouth and eyes closed. I pin cavey down and fart on his nose! Woa there...scat attack! Nose run, eyes water, girlfriend leave, fuck it, way funny anyway.

I stand corrected...You be da man Wallstiene. Now assume the position, bitch!

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Yeah that was the whole idea Trask I was asked at the pub club Well you be da man, butt nacho.

quote: Originally posted by pope: Now I regret starting this thread. I've got to be honest: Peter's posts are entertaining, and he has sent me several pm's that were entirely cordial. When he's not upset with you, he's a great guy. Prior to the events I described above, I kind of liked the guy. In truth, he only sent two pm's that were poorly received, then I asked him to never contact me again, and he complied. And for the record, I've condemned the actions of a minority of climbers, those who trash our crags. I've certainly poked fun at others, but I wouldn't call it condemnation. I've also jumped in to "rescue" people who were getting picked on here, like the novice who was tired of being ridiculed for climbing in a gym (I reminded him that gym climbing is a lot of fun, and he's got nothing to be embarassed about); like the time a number of cc.commies were bashing T-shirt Rich. And starting today, I'm going to make it a point to say one nice thing about Peter each day. Happy, happy, happy. Hi Pope, did Tinkerbell sprinkle Fairy Dust on you this mornin?

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: This one looks great! What more do we need? Fuck! You did it Kemo. How bout' makin' it an instant Gremlin Tim & Jon? One more maybe, a little smilie climber-dude swingin' a tool or sumpin'?

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: You guys are coming across as self righteous and hard asses. Just chill out and when the spray comes deal with it accordingly. Otherwise Shut up! [ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ] No shit [ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: trask ]

Later...It's Monday Nite FooBall.

quote: Originally posted by panther: I spray therefore I am... I have a big one with which I spray...

Hold off abit on the votin' Cavey. Maybe we can make our own...anybody know?

quote: Originally posted by Dru: A french friend of mine liked the icon somuch he made his own red-wine-drinking one. [ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: Dru ] Dru mon, I was going to ask you about just that, since you are the all wise one (no I don't want your ass), how are these smilies made anyway, and why can't one of us brilliant well-hung climber/computer nerds make our own smilies...perhaps one assuming the position for instance? These are important matters that need to be addressed around here.

quote: Originally posted by erik: my point is clear......booo f@%^ing hoo. i just got a jumbled up brain. climber's rock. civilians don't understand us, valley girls fear our large penis's and our Simmons-like tongues. this cave dweller ne understands

quote: Originally posted by dan e: Okay, let me be more specific: I do often clip the tool into the belay, but only as a backup, not as part of the main belay (usually 22 cm ice screws). It never hurts to have more pieces in, but I don't exactly rely on the tool as being part of the belay. As for the continuing glue issue, I agree with DP. Besides, even if you are not using the tool as part of a belay, you are still using a tool where the head and spike are glued on, which means you are trusting your life to that very same glue! Dan E. I agree with both of you guys and BD. Coming from the boat industry, when bolting on big outboard moters to boat transoms we'd drill the holes for the mounting bolts, squirt the holes full of Dow 5200 (which is a glorified glue of sorts) and bolt on the motor. Whenever we had to take one of those motors off that same transom at a later date, it would rip the damn fiberglass apart and remove big chunks of the transom along with the motor. So I agree with BD, some of the new adhesives are stronger and stickier that the product they're being used with.

Shit what's the point? [ 12-01-2001: Message edited by: trask ]

quote: Originally posted by erik: kyle good points. i trully find reading about climbing kinda boring. receiving beta, i slike cheating. first ascenionsts didnt log aon and ask questions, i think it steals away from the adventure. so you wont find me just generally talking about my climbing. there is alot more to life then climbing.....a whole hell lot more. it is a fun game that allows me to test my self in certain areas. but in the end its just like this website its fun bbut dont mean shiznit. i am a doer not a watcher i dont watch tv or anything. so when i st here at work and work for man making the big bucks i need an outlet. i cant have my girl come down to the office, but i sure can pick on ray and drul and some of the other yo's. they like, i like we all like it. i think the only people that have the actuially problem on people who think they need it their way. bro this ain't burger king. and as far as i know jon and timm@y aren't looking for sponsership. if there i got 5 on it. peace dawg holier than thouerik Say what? [ 12-01-2001: Message edited by: trask ]

Kyle--"I was working on a clever retort to your monotonous post, but you're such a pretentious, whinny little shit, I don't care enough to waste my time. Just a few short words. After reading some of your posts, I see why Tigers eat their young. When you reach puberty, you should give some strong thought to the possibility of getting your GED and laid. Both will help straiten your ass out. Aren't you just something--whew, I'll bet you just spend hours at the mirror admiring your bad self...right? Blow me, poser..." your friend, Trask quote: Originally posted by Kyle: (What's my point? First trask, what's YOUR point, you ignorant little..... dust mite?? You pop up, spew a line or 2 of hateful, stupid or just plain annoying text, then later you pop up again to apologize for or edit your last dumb comment. I'm waiting to see the first remotely interesting or relevant utterance come from your infantile trap. Still waiting... nothing there huh? Right- I'm guessing you're an angry 14 year old girl with some serious issues... get over yourself, 'bitch'.) Holly et al, I don't think anyone here's looking for "changes" to the site... the site's fine, really, but like many common resources on the web it's slightly, shall we say, abused. If I have a point here, it's the same weak old point lots of folks have made on this and a million other internet forums- that not only is there nothing wrong with spray, there's also no harm or shame in making an attempt to stay on topic once in a while, particularly in a specialized and regional group like this. Dru suggests people should post more interesting stories... I agree completely- I for one can't get enough beta, route conditions, and TR's. But I'd guess I'm not the only one here that's reluctant sometimes to post to what seems like an overly hostile and reactionary audience. With over 1400 registered users, there seem to be only 30 or so that post with any regularity. What's with all the lurkers- surely a few of them have something interesting to share? Maybe like me, a lot of them are wondering what's the point of saying anything at all if every post gets pecked to small pieces, then sprayed into a fine mist? I also have to say I'm a bit amazed & embarrassed by some of the angry and mean-spirited jive that gets slung around here, especially lately. I think what we've got here is a classic case of November cabin fever- folks are frustrated because the rock is wet and the ice isn't formed, and they're getting all tetchy, and snapping like dogs at imaginary flies. Don't worry peeps- the ice will form, the snow will fall, and soon enough we'll all be qeueing up at the base of Chair Peak to take turns dropping ice on each other... So is there any harm in covering an entire site with spray? Probably not, but I'd submit this analogy... take Paris for example (trask- a little tip for you; it's in France). It's a great city- lots of cool things to see & do. But nearly everywhere you go in Paris you're accompanied by the ever-present stench of urine. Seriously- it's worse than the Nose route. It's because people there pee everywhere- they pee in the streets, storefronts, mailboxes, phone booths, etc. It's not for lack of restrooms, it just seems to be an arrogant & misguided expression of personal freedom- "I pee wherever I want, because I can, and to hell with anyone who doesn't like it". There are certainly more offensive smells than urine, but it strikes me as a bit sad that no one in our lifetime will ever know what Paris is like without the stink, or what a public forum is like without the spray cloud. Say whatever you want (and I'm sure you will- fire away... I won't be here to read it), but I maintain that excessive spray can and does detract from a site; it scares away sponsorship and advertising money and can keep a site from achieving its true potenti- Rrrrring!! Hold on- that's my phone. "Hello?""Kyle, it's your life calling. Line one.""What? My Life? Ohhhh, that's right- I have one." Sorry folks- I have to take this call. I'm gonna put you on hold for just a minute, but I'll be right back... Background music: awful muzak rendition of'I'm walkin on sunshine, Oh oh' (come on- sing along; you know this tune)'I'm walkin on sunshine, Oh oh''I'm walkin on sunshine, Oh oh''And don't it feel good! Doo do, doo doo doo do do do...' [ 12-01-2001: Message edited by: trask ]