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I'm sorry, was it something I said?

No to throw a wrench in here, but that first picture looks a lot like the 4th (last) pitch of Big Tree One (Dick's Demise variation) and it looks like the climber stepped over the little corner/roof to clip the last two bolts on the 3rd (last) pitch of Cornucopia. There is a 4th pitch of Cornucopia that reaches the Big Tree. Either way, it looks like it was a good day.

Is it pure enthusiasm or the cinching of the goldline harness around the nad region that is eliciting the facial expression?

A social structure based on monetary inequalities which are sanctioned by the force of law. That's why it costs so much.

the brutal truth is that the fs is our own child and our own fault... (SNIP) Total BS. I exert NO control over the machinations of the USFS. What they do is not my fault.

Are you kidding? Of course I remember EBs and Goldline. I may still have my first pair of EBs... I remember doing laps around Spire Rock in 1978 where I met this other young guy named Jim Yoder. We used to meet up at Spire Rock and boulder for hours -then he moved to Leavenworth. I was a climbing instructor for the 9th Infantry Division in Leavenworth during the summer of 78. We used a mil spec version of Goldline called Greenline. It was green (duh) and not as stiff as Goldline. We had heavy steel biners and led groups of soldiers in a week-long climbing course modeled after the Mountaineers Basic Course. We had a special permit from the USFS to camp uphill from Bridge Creek CG on the other side of the Icicle. There was a back trail from our camp that led down to Classic Crack. We did laps on that every night after dinner and a couple of bowls snuck away from the Officer in Charge. (Strains of Springsteen's Glory Days in the background...)I was a CLIMBER, man! That was my identity and self concept. Back in the early 80's I pilfered a bunch of fixed soft iron pins from (at the time) some obscure crag across the road from Bridge Creek CG. I assumed they were military issue. Is it possible these were related to your activities in the Icicle?

I guess I missed your point (?) I thought we were talking about a wilderness area here in WA.

I asked my wife about Zipp's connection between greediness ("They want it, they want it now, and they’ll do anything to get it.") and being good in bed. She just laughed and shook her head. Apparently greedy men aren't so apt to give their partner such a good time in the eyes of at least one woman.

Brian Landeck was his name.

When YOU began your focus on vertical motion YO. 1983 here. I fell out of a tree and broke my left femur in 1964. 1st roped climb, 1979.

I'll add...toulene? mehtyl ethyl ketone

Whay kind of beer was it?

"Joy turned to horror in Italy on Friday when an Italian journalist..." "...and killing the Italian agent who had negotiated her release..." "...The Italians' vehicle..." "Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has asked the U.S. ambassador for an explanation." "...coalition forces will co-operate with Italian authorities..." "Our thoughts and prayers are with the family of the Italian citizen."

I suppose if I had a job where cars rushing at me might suddenly detonate with enough explosive force to turn me into a gelatinous mass, I would probably have acted just as the soldiers at that checkpoint did. Diplomacy be damned; I would just want to get back home in one piece.

Why isn't this in Spray?

George Bush , a President slight, Has an IQ which possibly might, Reach double figures With cranial vigors, And a large intellectual fight!

Is it really a cover if the song is traditional? Versions of The Itsy Bitsy Spider are found in cultures throughout the world and are not attributable to any one author/composer. Well, it's not really relevant to the fact that it was a nauseatingly bad rendition of the song, but if you wanna split hairs, then sure, it's probably not technically a cover. Whoever it was, though, didn't write the song, so from that standpoint, it fits under the cover umbrella. Sheesh.. I'm sorry, did I hurt your feelings? I was just curious if a known originator was necessary for a song to be a true cover. Works for me.

Is it really a cover if the song is traditional? Versions of The Itsy Bitsy Spider are found in cultures throughout the world and are not attributable to any one author/composer.

In my opinion...

Warning!

...which was ahead of the party of two who were ahead of another party of five which was ahead of the party of four, one of whom was sounding like an emphysema patient.

It is about more than just keeping the land pretty... It seems to me I read somewhere how ecological and biological diversity play a pretty important role in sustaining life on this planet. Two things that don't tend to happen with human encroachment.