Cpt.Caveman

Someone should restore the Triad's original name - The three dicks

If someone wants to hook up for some alpine shit this weekend let me know. I'd be interested in skiing Ruth and or Icy Peaks, a nice light trip up to the easy route on Colonial Peak, or something back near Chimney Rock.

Thanks Stefan.

If anyone hears of the trail\snow conditions going into this area via the Middle Fork give a hollar. Thinking about going in there. BTW what is a good summer time estimate on how long it would take to get near the glaciers below Chimney Rock?

My ten essentials- Whiskey or Scotch one liter KGB Camera A big smirk Snafflehound destroyer 15lb rock for partner's pack Lighter Horsecock and cheese (moldy) Trundle bar (dayton bar) Internal gas for extra horsepower

RE-Belay gloves are cool cuz they are one more thing you can put into your pack and carry around to help you feel more like a climber. More stuff. More stuff. MORE STUFF!!! More stuff is more gooder. ******************* Ditto. More gear makes me better climber too.

You FU***cker! I hate you so much I would cut your ears off, rip your eyeballs out one at a time, scalp your melon, filet the skin from your legs and drop your legs in boiling oil, cut your belly open then drop scorpions into the gashing void, then take a leak on your head. <--- weak icons btw

I pick the route. Midway at Castle rock Oops that's only 5.4

Oh yeah and anyone caught climbing without a hemp rope would be forced to free solo on acid.

Somehow I think I would fall into the bald guy with multiple patches licensing me to be a mountain cop. I'd force everyone to smoke weed and drink liquor on the summits. The only thing in our blue bags would be pounds of ganja. The only tie would be thai bud. How bout them mountains

RE-If there is not an objective set of standards against which each field member is evaluated through a testing process with documentation, an organization leaves itself wide open to litigation. Both these forms of evaluation are in place in the mountain rescue units I have been involved in, and if they were not, I'd quit. ********************************************* Maybe the guys I saw should have failed. Maybe the tests are bogus *everybody passes* in some places. Who knows...

RE-I would say much the same thing about the SAR discussion: it is a matter of balance and perspective. Sure, I have often met SAR people who seem to be unqualified (at least for technical rescues and maybe even for a simple lost-hiker search), and I am among those who sometimes like to laugh at the incompetent. Further, I believe that people in those organizations are doing so in part to contribute toward public safety but it is also a hobby for many of them who really enjoy the whole thing, are proud to be rescuers instead of mere wilderness users, and who derive a lot of their social life from the SAR activity (really, they do it for many of the same reasons that a lot us climb). But they DO save lives and they DO sometimes risk their own in an effort to do so. So go ahead and make jokes and criticize, but don't lose track of what they contribute and don't forget that one day they may be coming to get you out of a jam or to retrieve your body. ********************************************** I'll take the reigns on it since I am almost the only one that commented negatively about the SAR. First you can read what I mentioned before that I do believe that is a good cause or with good intentions. But to demand instant recognition for all on the internet is well - ridiculous to me in this forum and discussion. The intentions are cool and I would be happy for any rescue when in need. Just send me the competent ones. I say that again because I have indeed seen some that aren't quite well fit for the job. I know it's volunteer too. I am glad people are out there serving time into their community in this manner. maybe a fitness and technical competence evaluation is in order for certain rescues? Either way nothing changes the true fact that some maybe are not capable of rescuing due to poor fitness. Having said some of this stuff twice I didn't think it was necessary to make a silly post here on this subject about who is on SAR and also posts to this site as some sort of "bow down" recognition that it outright appeared to be. There are climbers out there that help and aid in rescues that are not in the SAR all the time too. Forgive me for sharing a real experience. I'm sure it's only one out of thousands. But hey it's more fun when you don't have to be politically correct

RE- Caveman, I thought better of you. Regardless, I still promise to beat your chest if I find you in trouble in the mountains, not breathing, not beating... on your own that is. ******************************************** I am the caveman- just feed me a beer instead of that IV. ******************************************** I say back with deadguy

MY kick... I guess I made a private thing a public one again! Dang, I hate it when I do that! ************************** Get over yourself. The chestbeater topic is in spray.

RE: This is a stereotype that needs to go away. When rescuers find themselves in trouble, it is NOT to be seen as incompetence. I am a member of SMR. It was not at all funny when others came to my help and to recover Göran. Not one person I know was laughing when we watched the clips of the army helicopter roll down Mt. Hood during their rescue. Have some gratitude for those who endanger their lives for our well-being. 'nuf said. ********************************************** Good for you. I am glad you are on SMR. It is a fine duty I presume. However I have served my own way. I didn't seek approval or recognition.. If someone is imcompetent well then - that is exactly what they are. I have gratitude for their desires but if they cant do the job let's just say I am not going to pull any punches on what I see. It's called reality you see. Get off your kick...

I do. Well then make a post about SAR asking who is on it.

RE: As for SAR members, I have met some of them and most of them SUCK. They would killed themselves trying to help anybody other than a hiker with a spained ankle. No offense to anybody on SAR teams, but the ones I've met scare me. Well I have seen some scary ones. One time my friend and I were hiking up granite mountain in spring. Some guys were in a hurry behind us and we thought they were in SAR training. Turns out they asked us to carry their packs up to a real rescue spot. We were just out on a hike. It's funny when the rescuers need rescuing. I'm glad we have them folks though. Might need it one day. Just send me the competent ones.

RE BACK OFF SHIT FACE.... I can start naming SAR members on this site if you want me to. Not in bandguy's defense but - WHO CARES?

You can sling gear on the shoulder straps of your pack...

"there's cold ones... way down there in the bottom" FEAR

Good points. I dont rack my screws to my gear loops. But others do... I never said you "have to have gear loops" on your harness. But well to already have them and be prepared and being convenient is ok by me. Even if they are not in use they are not that much of a burden. I still think that Mammut harness is better

Hey Look it's an alpine bod with gear loops ready made Oh wait that's mammut-

I find it funny when people try to justify buying a piece of shit

I dont buy harnesses without gear loops. Seems pretty retarded ass from my point of view.