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I've never had to endure an unplanned bivi....lucky I guess... EDIT: ooops, yeah I guess we did crash next to the trail on our way out fron the NR of Mt Stuart. It was raining and we had no gear...but we were completely worked...laid down under a dead tree.

a Ti-Block chewed a core shot in my rope...but it was user error.

nice, vid takes a while to load, but is way cool. http://www.petzl.com/petzl/frontoffice/Sport/static/Video/nepal.htm

I was thinking the exact same thing.

"recognise the Monster for what it is, not a new ice axe, but the most efficient extension of their own arm for hooking on the most difficult terrains." Whatever happened to good old fashioned Rock Climbing? Probly came out with the first prototype in the summer... available in several colors...

if you are using hooks to get through a free section, then they are a crutch. If you jump on a climb planning to use aid (including hooks) then they are a passtime. an exiting passtime nonetheless.

I would appreciated it if you would all stop using the term RETARDED. I find it particularly offensive. Thank you.

well they should just start logging and mining again and everything will be cool. sice Kerry is a loser...it probly won't be long.

I'm trying to see what it takes for a guy to get banned around here. Apparently directly insulting the moderators and their friends doesn't work for some people. Yet if pope and Dwayner bitch about bolts for too long they get the boot. go figure maybe you just gotta post some puupy porn...

wow....thanks for the incredible imagery guys...damn....I need to go there. congrats on your climbs. Chris, nice song selection...love that one.

they have fired in lots and lots of bolts, scrubbed lots of moss, glued lots of holds. yes, I should bow down to them. ::bowing to the screen:: yes...what would washinton climbing be without the likes of Mr. Burdo??? I suppose everyone would be forced to climb at index or something.

ha, nice Matt

oh...I though this was another thread about how cc.com sucks now...

did you mean "Splendor" ?

I'll take that, as well as your efforts to ignore the question in the past....as a YES. That's fine, but if you want to be a leader in the community then you need to be heald accountable for your actions. Not argueing with your integrety. If you wer to say NO, I'd drop it and leave it alone. Then there is the other members/organizers of this group to consider. Still waiting for me to leave? You'll have to wait for a long time...or just go ahead and ban me. so long, till next time!

I'm sorry, you make a point that I can't follow. I'll tell ya what mattp, ya know what would make this thread fun again... If you would tell all of us whether you yourself have drilled bolts at Darington illegaly, or been a part of a team or project that did. That's what I'd like to know....before I'd consider signing up with your club.

whatever mattp one more question. why was this road into the Darrington climbing area built in the first place? Second, multiple questions....your home is made from wood right? And you drive on highways made from gravel? And you eat beef I assume? And you use trailheads tha the FS is expected to maintain? argueing with someone who is apparently allways right is a worthless endeavor. This thread is nolonger fun....yet another stale discussion dominated by mr. mattp goodbye

uuuughhhh that sucks... my folks water heater flooded their garage a month or two back...

I'm indiferent....can you follow that? It makes no difference to me that it would be closed, other then I'd feel kind of bad for my friends who like to climb there. are climbers pretty much the only people who use that road? cause it seems the only way to really influence the FS in your benefit would be to get all recreational user groups involved. but also in my eyes, if you do expect them to keep it open and maintained for you....I better not hear you bitching about user fees and NWF parking passes, or Larry the Tool who inforces them.

so lets say the road is closed to to lack of budget for maintenance and has nothing to do with bolts. then what? you have to hike in, or even ride a bike or motorcycle in. so it prevents you from going after work...but is it that much of a tragedy? one complaint I heard is that it will reduce traffic in there so moss will overcome the routes... come on now...I though you Washington hard man were use to pulling cruxes with a brush in one hand...

hmmm... pretty ironic then I guess. whatever, I guess don't know the whole stroy....but who realy does? 1% of the total Washington climbing community...maybe.

ha, yes I suppose I am...

hey james, speaking from experince I can tell you that a select group of moderators not only "grunt through work all day at wherever just to come home and gossip about all the cc.comers..." but also, gossip about cc.comers all day while at work! no lie bro.

plus what I said about Darrington is that if it were to get shut down because of bolting issues, there would be no one to blame but you and your friends....who apparently don't respect the guidelines provided by the land managers. You dig your own grave you sleep in it. Personaly I despise slabs and only climb them if they are an unavoidable part of a route that has climbing that I enjoy. So Darrington isn't on my short list of climbing areas to visit. Although I can appreciate that some people like it alot, it sure looks beuatiful in the photos. Too bad a select few people perhaps love the area, but fail to respect the strings attatched. If the same thing happened in Yosemite because of a few people who have in the last few years have been using power drills on El Capitan, I would be devistated, but have essentialy the same opinion, and a severe scorn for those few disrespectfull individuals, who I would just assume see beaten to a pulp.