mattp

Yeah, but we could go to "the manliest place on earth." Just ask Brandon: click here [ 10-21-2002, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: mattp ]

Crackbolter - Check out the DeLorme topo's on cd.

From some webpage: "Another restaurant that formerly was a hole in the wall has moved up to bigger digs. In the University District, Schultzy's owners Don and Susan Schulze have taken the plunge, spent $425,000 on a building and spent $125,000 more converting half of it into a 60-seat restaurant. With the larger space, the couple have added beer and wine on tap, upscale hamburgers, and some low-fat vegetarian fare to their signature sausage dishes. "

Erik showed me the autoblock this weekend, and it seemed both easy to use and effective.

Can they special order Terminal Gravity stout?

I always wondered about that place - it's right next to a metal annodizing plant or something like that. Kind of like the Barbeque place on Elliot that is in an old dry-cleaners.

The Ballroom has been pretty good all Summer, but I'm not sure it will work as well for us if we have to move inside. Owl and Thistle was the scene of the most recent Seattle pubclub. Anybody like the Zoo? or that place in Roosevelt? Or Two Bells?

quote: Originally posted by sayjay: thanks for the awesome stout, TG! you're *my* alpine buddy of the week...

Sorry, I had left the "www" out of the URL. You're too fast for me, Dru - trying the link before I even had time to test it. Go back to work! [ 10-21-2002, 10:37 AM: Message edited by: mattp ]

Additional shots of the party, and some climbing pics, are in a temporary folder on my webpage. click here [ 10-21-2002, 10:35 AM: Message edited by: mattp ]

For those who can't find the gallery, here's a picture of this weekend's ALPINE BUDDY:

Ding Ding Ding!

These things might save somebody some time, but without thinking very much about it I can see some real problems with the use of them. Here's a couple of them: Issue one: when do you activate the thing? When somebody is losing mass blood or just when you find that you are not going to make it down off Johannesburg tonight and you didn't bring bivvy gear and it looks like rain? (In the old days you would tough it out, but now you think you don't have to and you really don't know if you could survive a night out so you feel justified in calling for help.) Issue two: Will the prospect of a ready-to-order rescue cause people to try a climb that would previously have been too intimidating? Issue three: once you push the panic button a rescue will have to be initiated becaause if the signal thereafter stops they won't now if the unit stopped working or the user switched it off. If we want a rescue calling device, I'd be hoping they come out with a tiny satellite phone.

you...sliced up my wife; you sliced her up; you sliced her up!

I would say it might be more difficult. To buy and use such a locator beacon is kind of like saying you fear you might get lost (which would very likely be your own fault), whereas to buy and use an avalanche beacon is to acknowledge that you plan to spend time in dangerous terrain (which we tend to think is a reasonable choice, if you take "adequate" precautions). However, my recollection is that the use of avalanche beacons became standard practice among all the backcountry skiers I know within a few years of their release on the general market.

Leavenworth Cam: [ 10-18-2002, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: mattp ]

Perhaps I should clarify, and say that I'm not critical of someone who asks for beta but, rather, I'm suggesting caution in basing your decisions on someone else's "beta."

quote: Originally posted by JoshK: Due to lack of recent beta I think we're gonna bail on trying price glacier this WE. Dude - I think you may be relying too much on the availability of "beta." If someone on cc.com had posted that they were there last week, and the route was a no-go because of a big crevasse that blocked the route, would you have taken this as gospel and decided not to go? How would you know that they weren't gapers or had not just taken a wrong turn somewhere or something? Conversely, what if they said that they climbed it last weekend and it was awesome, and that the key to the climb was taking the low traverse even though from below the higher traverse, above the large crevasses at mid-height, looked better. And waht if they also said that no rock gear is needed because it is doable all on the ice. Would you rely on that assessment, either? You are eyeballing some good climbs and the weather forecast is (currently) looking good. Go out there and have fun and rely on your own judgment rather than some unknown stranger you meet on the internet!!

Dave- I'm not sure what "stupidity" has to do with it. It is certainly my impression that the F.S. in general is not a very user-friendly outfit and that the Leavenworth District in particular is unfriendly towards climbers, but they probably have their reasons for closing certain campgrounds and I bet it has to do with maintenance costs. So far, two out of two have been told that EightMile is closed, and previously Beck or somebody was told that the group site at Bridge Creek is also closed. So we better try to get as many people there as early as possible, and hope there are plenty of sites available at Bridge Creek.

Cool. Do I get a tee shirt?

See you there, Ivan (I'm not sure whether they'd let me in the KTK or not).