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i like to log-on to cc.com in the middle of the crux and focus on the lawgoddesses' whirly spiral

Like any site - this site has a range of quality. Some is good some is bad. Some of the TRs posted here are very good. Some are just plain lame. A forum in which people can post TR's without recieving comments would invariably become a dumping ground for crap if only because TR's that the author thought were any good would appear in a forum where they could recieve praise. It is wrong to uniformly praise even things of low quality. It makes the good seem less good to praise the bad equally. Since many people here seem to lack the reading comprehension of, say, Ray Borbon - who is a master at it IMHO - - where did I say that all beginner TR's are bad? Ans: no where. Where did I say that all TRs of popular destinations are bad - nowhere. Where did I say that not every TR is good - right here. Where did I say that I do not enjoy poorly written TR's, of whomever, describing whatever - right here. If RuMR wrote some TR about blah blah sent 5.13 and it sucked I'd be among the first to tell him so. When someone writes a TR of their first lead and they write it well - I tell them so with a So - ScottP and Michelle and Cracked - if you guys want to see TR's WHY DONT YOU WRITE SOME MORE INSTEAD OF TELLING OTHERS HOW TO RESPOND TO THEM? and no photos of posing on a tight toprope please cracked! I write a bunch of TRs - they are on this site - if you think they suck why don't you criticize them?

...that Dwayner had this girl avatar

If my past (and rather limited) experience with crack climbing is any indication, 5.4-5.6 should be just right for me difficulty-wise. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Sounds like Icicle Creek Canyon is my best bet for now, and maybe I can go to Squamish or Vantage when I grow up. Royal Columns in Tieton sounds good too, but the only info I could find on it was a "here are a few routes, but, by all means, try any crack that looks good" in Soot. Thank you kndly, Mr. Soot, but not while I'm trying to learn new technique. Thanks again to everyone who replied! you may find that 5.4-5.6 in Washington compares to some routes rated 5.7 or even 5.8 in some areas at Squamish....

Burgersling - do you ever run into Alpinfox at Mom's house

After conversing with Mr. Ilgner about his book on Gripped bulletin board - I accused him of spamming and he basically admitted it and apologized - I found a copy of his book and perused it. I think the book Fern gave me called "Self Hypnosis in 2 Days" is just as effective and costs less. However, it is not as climbing specific.

i have provided more beta today than you have

hey michelle you are describing a person i don't recognize. what a strange view you have of me. let's see the last TR I flamed was hmmm... dberdinka for nailing a free and clean route and before that - probably wayne for what i considered to be ruining colin's TR with some chest thumping.damn, i'm a vicious, evil person as far as i can tell the only person i have ever flamed for spelling was harpell for teh posts taht nveer sepll porperly -cheif i guess you see all those spelling flames and never see the posts where i say to someone's TR or welcome a new poster instead of flaming them for say, having the temerity to say they aint going to show up at some dive of a bar why don't you try and show some evidence to back up your claims if you think i'm that bad? or it may be that you will come up short and then apologize to me i am always willing to admit i was wrong if anyone can show me i have done something i don't think was right, and i will issue an apology and retract any statements in the principled manner alpinfox did, if they are pointed out to me please do not attempt to bring up deliberate and obvious trolling like me asking a worked up and ethic-spewing Lambone how many pins he took on his glacier peak epic in the strickland nailing post. i like trolling and im not going to apologize for it. edit - oh wait i also asked hardman polish bob why he had to retreat up to the summit when attempting to descend australian gully and then go down SE ridge on Joffre

ah yes another person practicing what they preach

i dont live in a "house"

KILL!

Have U ever noticed that it's only anonymous people who read things in threaded mode, all the cool people use flat mode

Bush is Commander in Chief of Army Your nation is at WAR You are guilty of TREASON Run for the border, chimp!

ah yes. the TR is posted on a public forum but we are told only some comments are allowed to be made. maybe if there was a forum called "Shitty TRs that no one can ever respond to" people could post the bad ones there without the FEAR of RIDICULE that is PREVENTING SO MANY FROM WRITING I dont think fear of the comments Matt referred to stopped any of those people from posting Actually I take it back about the Walk in the Freezer cuz Distel's mushroom trip and Glacier's parody or elaboration of Mike Layton's gym TR were better. This board would be a lot better place if more people lead by example and spent less time being sociologically correct and telling other people how to behave.

i show u mine if u show me urs i don't need to see the rope she can just flash me her rack

"The Stoke" is a town on Highway 1 west of Rogers Pass otherwise known as Revelstoke. known for the best pow on Earf and also avalanche deaths.

That's stating the obvious. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt even after the shit you sprayed in the "too many climbers" thread, but after this one, forget it. You are a dick are you confusing jkreuger for jkassidy

That's stating the obvious. zing.....ouch "welfare mothers make better lovers welfare mothers make better lovers DEEEE-VOR-CEEEEEE"

Like everyone else I like to read but it doesn't mean I think anything written is good. I reserve the right to be critical and encourage others to do the same - only way to improve your writing is from feedback and personal reflection like you read something u wrote 4 years ago and are like "Ohmigod that sux." A ass-kiss fest like on rec.climbing where any time one of the "old hands" writes a TR even if it about feeding their dog or some shit, 20 people post and say "oh nice TR, you the best" doesnt lead to any good writing. This site has seen lots of TRs some good and some not so good. I say write more good ones and less bad ones. Pictures are good for people with no attention span. Funny is better than boring. By all means post whatever you want but don't expect to post total BS and have everyone say it is wonderful. To praise shit is to diminish true gold. The best TR I have seen in the last few weeks was Walk in the Freezer

kind of.

hey parker which SIDE would you have fought on in the civil war????

toad licker

THE VAULTS OF EROWID

This one pretty good too