Retrosaurus

quote: Originally posted by SEF: ...You fell for the rumor that the female gender ratio there is larger than cc.com. No. The rumor was that The Mountaineers is really a dating service for people that drive Jeep Cherokees.

quote: Originally posted by allison: I ...have NO IDEA what this Big O thing is... Aaahh, The Mysterey of "O". I am sure Peter would offer to take you there. Post a trip report about the experience.

I hope your insurance is good. They are spendy.

Debilitating arthritis.

Holy moley, Snoboy. I didn't know it was so complicated. How in the world do you get on the right bus to get home from school? Do they pin your bus number on your collar, or what? Think outside the box, just a little. You don't even need axes to get up WI2. Try it on top-rope. It's fun.

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quote: Originally posted by mattp: Mitch, you are right that the demands increase exponentially as ice approches vertical but I think you overstate your case. Frozen waterfalls are beautiful and I find the climbing plenty enjoyable even on "low angle" falls suitable for a bumbly like me and I believe many moderately experienced climbers find sufficient challenge when the overall angle exceeds, say, 70 degrees -- even if they could thrash their way up someting "truly vertical." You are in a fairly elite group of you don't consider anything less than that to be worthy. Just a statement of my personal tastes in ice climbing. Nothing against moderates or "bumbling" up low angle stuff. I have spent a lot of time doing just that and reveled in every moment of it. But it just don't put lead in my pencil no more.

quote: Originally posted by russki82: aw dang! and I thought this was a singles dating site... climbing? huh? what's that? boy did I stumble into the wrong place You must have been looking for the Seattle Mountaineers.

quote: Originally posted by mattp: quote:Originally posted by Retrosaurus: Water ice ain't water ice until it's vertical. ???? Unless it is VERY thin or actively falling down, water ice requires very little in the way of skill or technique to succeed, and most will be able to bumble their way through it. But when it is truely vertical it is a completely different animal and you will need to have your shit dialed wire-tight. Placing gear on sustained vertical ice (especially if it is of less than ideal quality,) is one of the most demanding things that I have ever done.

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: quote:Originally posted by Greg W: Great Northern Slab at Index (wasn't altogether serious but wouldn't that be cool?) Depends if you think WI 2 is cool or not... Personaly I'd prefer to farm ice on the steeper wall. Too bad it will fall down evry afternoon... Water ice ain't water ice until it's vertical.

quote: Originally posted by Paul detrick: DITTO:

Borrowing wheelchairs from the emergency entrance of the hospital and having races down big steep hills. Hey, it seemed perfectly reasonable after eating the worm at the bottom of the Mexcal.

Hey Stephen, How about that 30-year-old wad of slings on the top of Mt. Temple?

Snow on the ground at my house right now!

...and wouldn't it be reasonable that an attorney pocket 30% of any $damages$ recovered?

Sat on my ass straddling a vee shaped hole I stomped into the snow. But with the mass of my ass I figure it was pretty bomber.

quote: Originally posted by Figger Eight: IF carabiners are failing at loads less than their claimed kn limit...might there be a case? And wouldn't that be great? And if you fuck up... might you die? It is obvious to me that multiple things went wrong in this accident. Is the purpose of this "investigation" to determine cause, thereby increasing knowlege and safety, or to fix blame (as in building a case $$$)? Some of the recent language suggests the latter. I hope not. Too much of the price of US-made products (and services) is already passed directly on to insurance companies and lawyers. Here's to all of us who carry on the seductive dance with Death that is CLIMBING .

Smells like money.

quote: Originally posted by erden: [QB]...Please do not confront Dr.Nil as such. Dr.Nil is meaning well, providing a different perspective, wanting no holes in our case when we make it... Weird. Making a legal case, and why?

quote: Originally posted by Dr.Nil: ...However, be aware that carrying out an investigation yourself, including selecting investigator/laboratory, may legally work in your disfavor, and I strongly advise against it... Dr.Nil, Your language disturbs me very much and seems to be symptomatic of moral and spiritual ills now ingrained in our society. Just what legal favor/disfavor are you alluding to?

quote: Originally posted by Dru: If you like offwidths you can climb Ixtlan. Ixtlan is one of the finest most varied routes at Red Rocks.

quote: Originally posted by mattp: quote:Originally posted by Greg W: You gonna show, Mitch, or do you have to work? Yeah. You gonna show? I'd sure like to show up but the grapevine has it right. I'll be working.

quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: quote:Originally posted by texplorer: I thought Borbon was already coming? me, too. that's the only reason i agreed to come! How could you tell? Was he making that face . or just breathing hard?

quote: Originally posted by bobinc: An old trick on the smaller hexes/stoppers etc is to expoxy the wires at the nut end so they can't poke back through the nut. This makes it easier to place and remove them (but makes it so you can't use them as ad hoc hangers on hangerless bolts). or quickdraws.

Wired hexes look much prettier on your rack and so are much preferred for posers. Climbers on the other hand will find that to properly place a hex most of the time you will need to grab the nut itself (not the sling or wire) and wriggle it into place to make sure that it is seated in just the right place and oriented in just the right direction. Wires often hinder this bu pushing against the side of the crack like a spring (that can also make cleaning more dificult. And some times they stick straight out of the placement translating rope movemont to the nut more effectively, increasing the chance of the placement being disturbed.