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For the same reason there are private cars on public roads

This acquisition would afffect Trundle Dome as well as the areas/climbs that Matt mentioned above. Here is a pic of BobbyPeru on the supercool "Piller de Cowboy Boot" on Trundle Dome. Note the sweet handcrack on the right side of the boot: Sent mine in! C'mon, let's keep up the momentum!

What is so irrelevant about it? The only real reason I can fathom as to why this should be a big govt. priority (Senate committee hearings !!!) is because of the possible "popular athletes influencing kids to do stupid things to their bodies" concerns. That, of course, has direct parallels to dope and "cane". I assume the main reason many of you are all upset about this is because it is "cheating". Or it makes it more difficult for atheletes to compete at the highest level without trashing their bodies. Should that really be a big senate priority? This problem is the athletes' problem. Let them take care of it. Should our government be spending their time (our money) holding hearings over what rules should be instituted in playing a game? Do you think it is our government's mandate to legislate how much of a risk one takes to excel in a certain sport? If so, perhaps football shouldn't even be allowed, or at least remove the punt return play and that dangerous tackling ! How about boxing? How about .... climbing!!!! Perhaps we need a Senate committee to investigate these climbers who run it out far too much in order to get big sponsorships! Soloing needs to be outlawed because it is unfair to those unwilling to make some moves 15 feet above their last piece of pro. Am I not getting something here? What exactly is the big problem with professional athletes using steroids? Talk a bout a nanny state .

I think it's just 2:1 (minus the friction on the biner) CBS. Note that the belay device is locked off.

Not that it makes much difference, but that mantle move is not Index 10c. You're holding onto a jug of a ledge, mantle up and quick slap a higher jug, then easily pull onto the ledge. It's more like 9+ or 10a at most. Of course, I've only climbed it by accessing via Godzilla. It could be 10c from City Park if the transition into it is difficult

Great pictures! Thanks. Looks like a good time.

Petzl's version They suggest using an "Italian Hitch" (Munter?) to belay when you release the brake biner.

pigheads! pigheads! EVERYWHERE!!!!

I thought the pig was on Model Worker, and thus perhaps not directly applicable to this thread.

David Gunstone put up Heaven's Gate. Mike, your gear rec is a bit confusing. Since a single 70m will suffice, I assume two 50's would work wouldn't they? Another cool Index picture from Colt45's webpage

The Tooth is the best!

I think Cornucopia has just three pitches (according to the official topo ) . Were there any signs of travel (bolts) above you?

That does sorta look like you climbed Cornucopia on your "Big Tree Pitch 3". Nice pitch huh? Here's a pic from the belay at the top. Look familiar?

Isn't anybody going to mention twisted panties or knickers here?

C'mon Off White, the gun did not shoot the guy, the cat did!

Cat shoots owner with 9mm Will this end up being a thread mostly about stupid gun owners or cats?

Any of you ever had a girlfriend/boyfriend who you just didn't click with anymore? Though you didn't really like hanging around with her/him anymore, you surely didn't mind when she/he came over to your place and performed sexual favors, so you didn't totally tell them to take off, cause if like, the milk's free... and hell sometimes she/he was good to have on your arm at parties to show off. Old burnt-out flame = climbers uninterested, but happy to take the sex person = REI Those whining about the past, should know that you, "can't go home again." It's over. If you're happy with the current relationship, great. If not, maybe it would be better if you moved on.

Klenke that's GREAT!!! In a related note, yesterday I was putting together this office chair and the use instructions said "Do not place borning cigarettes on chair." Oh man! Doesn't that just crack you up!? ROTFL! I just spit my milkshake on the computer screen Ahem

How about the anchors at the base and top of Japanese Gardens p3 and Klaus Von Bulow? These anchors protect both climbs. I went over to check out Klaus Von Bulow a couple years back and the anchors at the base were not confidence inspiring, and couple that with the fact that KVB appears to start out rather thin with thin protection, we left. I'd assume the top anchors are in no better condition. Seems like I read on here a while back (found it) about Jap Gardens p3 being really nice before it descended back to munge. It looks like you might be able to get over to the top anchors via climbing something in the Shield area. Then rapping over. If someone replaces those anchors, I'd try to get over there and spend some time scrubbing.

Anybody wanna climb something today (Sno Pass, Index , ???) I'll be checking this board in about 30-45 minutes (then I'm leaving) PM me if you're up for something. Chuck

Is peak-bagging climbing?

Is this sort of like this ?

I liked the story. Far from being on a high horse, to mthe story read somewhat self-deprecating. That is, Pope made Dwayner sound pompous. He poked fun at him with the scribbling out the power-bar logo bit. Since Pope's usually working hard to defend Dwayner here, I considered this story being a bit humble, compromising, whatever.