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Oh, yeah, I almost forgot... What does "histrionics" mean? Maybe one of you guys that likes to look stuff up in online dictionaries and cut and paste it to the board could do that for me?

Allright!! Great stories guys n gals... although perhaps you could have added more easily recallable psuedonyms in your story Dryad, like sleepy, grumpy, slowy, etc... One thing I noticed in these stories is that the psycho bitch from hell and Catbirdseat were getting all bent out of shape about people slowing them down. That happens to me sometimes and here are a few of my ideas on the subject. Having someone catch up to you at another spot doesn't really change the amount of waiting, just where you wait, but does isolate you from your comrades. In some cases this might be good, but if you really want to be isolated from your comrades (who are slowing you down) why aren't you just heading out solo? You can do poking and prodding for a little while, but often it becomes apparent that you are just annoying the slow (ahem, more laid back) members of the group and not really going to speed them up to your liking anyway. At that point you need to just resign yourself and go with the flow. Catbirdseat's trip where he knowingly brought newbies up to Mt. Rainier and then got pissed because they weren't as fast as him does seem a bit silly. Try to figure out something to do to amuse yourself, like taking off your pack and bouldering hiking up to lookout points not on the trail etc. Dryad's strategy of switching packs is a good idea because that gives you more of a workout AND speeds the party. If you are still worrying about the pace, make damn sure that your side amusements don't make the others end up waiting on you, or give them an excuse to be even slower. Finally, I'm sure everyone can remember back to some time when THEY were the slow one, and how it would have felt to be belittled. When you are forced together with really annoying people it can sometimes take the edge off a little when you get to the point where you've totally lost respect for them. Because then you can just laugh at them instead of getting upset. Just make damn sure you're not going to need to ask them for something later on (like a ride home), or that they won't kill you in your sleep or something if you goof on them to their face.

I don't get it

Cheney is getting 200,000 per year from Haliburton right now! It's his "retirement" package.

Hey man! Those pictures were either confusing or TOTALLY SUCKY!

HEFEWIEZEN? any beer you need to put a piece of fruit in to make taste good, ain't worth drinkin'

I'm high on life asseyes

Oh yeah.... I had this total partner from hell experience. I'm lucky to just be alive...oh wait, I'm busy now, maybe I'll tell it later....

YEAH!!! WHAT FERN SAID!!!!! WHAT A BUNCH OF LAZY F88KS!!! This is a goddamned discussion board which is just perfect for telling great stories about partners you have wanted to kill!! Bronco...here's a beer to you ! YOU didn't ask people to relate their stories and then when asked to do the same made some lame ass "best over beers" excuse . WRITE YOUR STORIES LAME-O'S!!! ENUF WITH THE LAME EXCUSES. Oh, maybe your stories aren't that good after all. I'll listen to your stories if YOU are buying . maybe Or perhaps you are worried that the person you are slamming will read the story here? Oh.... I get it.

stepped up to MILF Speaking of MILF, we haven't heard from Michael Layton in a long time. How's he mending? He's still broken. He's got pin sticking out of both feet, on one of them, you'd expect to see guitar strings coming out, the pin have bulbous plastic ends like guiter pegs. It's painful to watch him struggle onto his crutches, feeble ass bastard, but he can still drink, even on the Percosets. The prognosis is good, though, he should be mended in 6-8 weeks. NECRO!!!!!

Yeah, urinal beer. Yech.

What the hell does that mean Are you saying that Hattie's, Latona and/or the Wedgewood Alehouse have dirty taps?

I will try to make it (late as usual). I prefer Latona to Hattie's though no biggie. Since Mattp, Paco, and I (oh and Dave) are the only ones expressing an interest, shouldn't we have it at the Wedgewood Alehouse?

This TR has Capt. Caveman written all over it. Nice job

FAST AND LIGHT !!! FAST AND LIGHT!!!!

HEY JUST IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW they got those zero cams ($47) and TCU's ($39) on discount at that Backcountry Gear vendor that advertises in the CC.com "hot deals" box. Ca-ching!

Have fun! We're all waiting for the trip report!

Reports that give conditions, beta, recommendations, warnings, pictures, insights into the "mind of the climber", tales of funny or strange occurrences, celebrity cascadeclimber sightings, and/or anything that at least disguises the "I did it", are welcome by me. Hell, this site is such a f'n soap opera (and resource for climbing partners), that I'm even interested in reading unabashed "I did it"'s.

It's the combo of the floppy stem and the bung-up factor that causes problems. Once the trigger device gets bunged up (a bit too frictiony) when you try to retract the cams, the stem just bends instead of the trigger pulling. PITA! When they are working well though, they are awesome.

TRASK IS A CRYBABY TATTLETALE!!!

The West Ridge Couloir is way cool (check it out in Beckey). You crampon up a deep couloir all the way to the West Ridge notch, then you get to do the best rock climbing part of the West Ridge to top it off. Probably better fun this time of year than the West Ridge proper.

Yeah, gators are cool. You don't need the convertible pant legs then (an effective layer, for Bill). Perhaps you guys' problem is that you use dark colored polypro. Seriously hot in the sun. Light colored is insulated and reflective, like that shit the evil Saudi's wear. People wearing all that dark-colored stuff out mountaineering don't get it, or are self-inflicted fashion victims, or both. Seriously, what's up with this Schoeller stuff? Are they some magical fabric that allows long pants to be as comfortable as shorts? Is this like the new Gore-Tex gearhead clothing of choice?

Hey Bill, The trick is, be able to accurately judge how warm it's gonna be before you start your hike. One rule of thumb (that the mounties ought to teach, but don't) is if you're comfortable standing at the car waiting for your partners to get ready, then you're dressed too warmly.

I LOVE wearing the shorts over polypro thing, or even better, those ever trendy convertible pants over polypro. DIE DIE DIE FASHION POLICE!!!!

Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge Soh-Cah-Toa All Students Take Calculus i before e, except before c, and in weird words The "b" has a belly in front of it, the "d" drags it behind You're welcome